I have not read this thread, and am drunk as hell, But this team has NOT shown the ability to pick a player worth a 36 yr old Gonzalez in th e2nd or 3rd. They trade him for anything less than a 1st, then they've shown me that they don't think that he could be a contributor when they get this thing in the POs. Which is absolutely reeruned. In the NFL, with thr picks we will have, and the cap space available ther is NO REASON why we can't turn it around. by 2009. If This happens, I'm done with this franchise period until carl, and herm are gone. PERIOD. I will shock my friends, and family, if we trade Tony for anything less than a 1st. I will shun the chiefs. I'm not fukin kidding.

you are drunk

Mr. blueballs has a point ... not like a physical point point ... like an insightful, on target contribution to the topic point.

Let's say that we trade Gonzo. Let's say that he goes to a team that doesn't emphasize the TE position as a "go to" weapon on offense. Let's say that he sits on the bench a lot studying the playbook. Then, let's say that they go to the Super Bowl and win the dang thing. Gonzo will have a ring, sure. But, will it be satisfying? Will it be worth it? Since he didn't actually contribute to that objective, I mean?

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i think your both fools. you play in the league for 10 yrs. work ur azz off for all of em. get traded. during your time there you make your blocks, catch the passes thrown your way, and still constantly work your azz off. you play 10 or 11 games with some guys and win a super bowl. it would most likely be one of the most gratifying points in his life.

This is the problem.

People in KC overvalue the TE position because of Tony.

But the fact is, the TE position is one of the least valuable positions on a football team.

If I'm the Chiefs GM, I would want at least a 2nd rounder for Tony.
If I'm the GM of a team attempting to trade for Tony, I'd offer a 4th.

You'd hope they would compromise and settle on a 3rd, but as the GM of another team, that's is the best offer you'd ever get.

The flaw in this reasoning is that the Giants just traded Shockey away for a 2nd and a 5th. I'd say GMs have a pretty good idea about the value of the Tight End position the way it's been played since Tony got here.

If Tony were still 28 years old, I'd give up a 2nd and a 5th for him.

But that's as much as I give up for a TE in his prime., even one considered the best ever.

HAHA Another Dumb statement by the tard!

Thanks!

16 pages of nothing but speculation. Mind numbing!!

Hmmm. So, let's say you were related to an independent director and he invited you on location to watch as his next movie was being shot. And, let's say you contributed absolutely nothing to the production of the film other than sitting around on the set, bitching, criticizing others, and misspelling simple words. Then let's say, when the Acadamy Awards rolled around, the movie won the Oscar for Best Picture. You're saying that you would feel just as satisfied and accomplished as the director or producer or lead actor or the other people who actually worked on the movie?

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Dude.....

There are over three million posts in this forum's existence, of which I'm fairly certain over half are nothing but speculation.

Gonzalez is not worth less than Jeremy Shockey. No sir.

I don't like Shockey, he can't stay healthy.

That being said, there's no way in hell I'm trading away the future for a guy that has 3 years of productivity left.

But then, I'm one of the very few that hated the trade we made to get Montana.

Gonzalez for Shockey's draft picks? A first round draft pick MUST be involved if Tony will be traded. Even if it's just a first round pick and nothing else. I'm all for it.