Originally Posted by bowener (Post 5415744)

I think it was said that Col. Custard was a soldiers man, he and Herm have had similar results. It is a great thing that the players love the coach, but it is another if the coach cannot turn that respect into wins.

I do not think I have ever heard the words muttered, "Belichick is a players coach", or "Parcells is a players coach," yet their players love them. The ones that don't are typically the 'me-first' type of guys, the ones that aren't tolerated by either of them, and thus they are ignored in the lockeroom as well as on the field until they can be traded or cut.

I don't want a bumbeling nice guy as a HC. It may sound cheesy, but football and war are similar in their power structure. You wouldn't want a slow to react/evolve, but lovable general to lead your military into battle, so why would you want something similar as a head coach. Herm is a Col. Custard type of guy (Custard probably had more dickheadedness and self assurance than Herm, though arguable), not a Patton type of guy.

More than coaches, and sometimes more than money, players love to win. If you win, the players will respect the coach that is leading them to those wins. These young guys know nothing but losing as KC Chiefs. I all but guarantee that the KC players will love/respect any coach that comes in here and gets them on the winning track.

I want a Patton, a Bellichick/Parcells type. I will leave you with possibly one of the greatest quotes in human histroy:


-Gen. G.S. Patton

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 5415753)

Pretty definitive, though. Do we believe Schefter with his Denver connection, or Garcia Bronco with his alleged Kyle Shanahan encounter?

Originally Posted by KC4EVER (Post 5415760)

I havn't read you saying one fact other than blowing your mouth about how this sucks and that sucks, come with some facts other than a win/loss record for a coach who was under the reign of King Carl.

Yeah your right, nobody wants a coach the players playing the game have total respect for and will do anything to win for him and the fans. Please remember just how young of a group we truly have, I'm telling you nobody went into this season (maybe you) thinking we were even going to get close to competing and now everbody wants to act suprised and blow it up again!

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5415766)

Sorry but wins and loses are the MOST IMPORTANT stat you can go by for a HEAD COACH, especially after THREE FULL YEARS. What other stat is there for a Head Coach? Passes completed by Herm? Interceptions by Herm?

The man you support is a LOSER, evidenced by his record.

Originally Posted by KC4EVER (Post 5415760)

I havn't read you saying one fact other than blowing your mouth about how this sucks and that sucks, come with some facts other than a win/loss record for a coach who was under the reign of King Carl.

Yeah your right, nobody wants a coach the players playing the game have total respect for and will do anything to win for him and the fans. Please remember just how young of a group we truly have, I'm telling you nobody went into this season (maybe you) thinking we were even going to get close to competing and now everbody wants to act suprised and blow it up again!

Originally Posted by KC4EVER (Post 5415779)

I agree, wins are the most important stat for head coach, my argument is that with the CURRENT roster, he hasn't been given a chance (other than one FULL year) to show what he can do with his guys and his system.

Originally Posted by KC4EVER (Post 5415779)

I agree, wins are the most important stat for head coach, my argument is that with the CURRENT roster, he hasn't been given a chance (other than one FULL year) to show what he can do with his guys and his system.

Originally Posted by KC4EVER (Post 5415779)

I agree, wins are the most important stat for head coach, my argument is that with the CURRENT roster, he hasn't been given a chance (other than one FULL year) to show what he can do with his guys and his system.

Originally Posted by KC4EVER (Post 5415779)

I agree, wins are the most important stat for head coach, my argument is that with the CURRENT roster, he hasn't been given a chance (other than one FULL year) to show what he can do with his guys and his system.

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5415783)

So how many more years does this guy get a ****ing pass?

Originally Posted by KC4EVER (Post 5415796)

Again, I think he's only had ONE true year to do what he wanted to do and at least give the man his last year to prove himself otherwise.

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5415795)

He's had THREE YEARS, if he and the GM didn't see eye to eye, he could have easily declined the job, but he ACCEPTED, knowing full well what the circumstances were. He also had Croyle for longer than a year. Same with Hali, Tyler, McBride, Pollard, etc...These are HIS PLAYERS and he failed miserably with HIS guys.