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doomy3 02-10-2009 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 5477424)
LMAO the spread absolutely helps the O line, come on Mecca you know better than that.

Not unless it helps his argument.

As soon as someone mentions wanting to draft an Oklahoma OLineman, he will change this.

SAUTO 02-10-2009 06:35 PM

qb coach QB COACH QB COACH, we will have one this year and we havent for several years.

DeezNutz 02-10-2009 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5477436)
qb coach QB COACH QB COACH, we will have one this year and we havent for several years.

Hope he has a wand.

Accuracyamos!

Repairo!

doomy3 02-10-2009 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 5477428)
I think a lot of the Thigpen supporters out there are also for drafting a QB in the 1st. It'd be interesting to take a poll.

Really, I want to see the guy succeed. I really do. The thing is, he's going to have to succeed like all the other 6th and 7th rounders who are successful in this league: prove it.

Just because we draft a QB doesn't mean Thigpen is not going to get another shot. Tell that to the Chargers fans who didn't want to draft Philip Rivers. And Brees was a friggin 2ND rounder. More like a 1st, actually, because he was the 2nd QB taken overall in that draft.

Thigpen will have plenty of chances to show improvement this offseason. If he's good enough, he'll start. And guess what? If he DOESN'T do that well but still shows improvement, he's GOING to be kept on the roster in some fashion. I mean, geez, what else do the Chiefs have to look foward to beyond Sanchez/Stafford? Quinn Grey? Brokie Croyle?

And if he shows no improvement whatsoever at all... well, I mean, that's tough, isn't it? He was a 7th round pick for a reason, and most of those guys just don't have what it takes to play in the NFL. 7th rounders have to work a LOT harder than 1st rounders to get noticed, and if the work isn't shown by Thigpen, why would he show it another time?

Yeah, I know. It's one offseason. But Thigpen's going to have to step away from local KC sports radio, call up his buddy Tony Gonzalez, and start throwing some passes. He's going to have to get in touch with Todd Haley and whoever our new QB coach is, and he's going to have to run a LOT of drills. He only has a few months before training camp, and if he's not looking fresh enough from the start, he's going to lose the starting job he had very quickly. And if he doesn't show more in preseason, then he's going to lose his job with the team.


They would be much better if they would have kept Brees and used that draft pick for something else.

Ceej 02-10-2009 06:36 PM

I've not went on record claiming as Thigpen as our QBOTF.


But, personally I like the kid because he exceeded everyone's expectations. I think most of us can agree with that. Some of that can be attributed to Gailey's gimmicky offense. But, after watching the Atl game I had no hope so whatsoever.

He proved me otherwise.

dirk digler 02-10-2009 06:37 PM

I think whatever team drafts Sanchez they will sit him for at least a year.

SAUTO 02-10-2009 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5477438)
Hope he has a wand.

doesnt need one, just work on footwork. get the feet right everything else follows

Mecca 02-10-2009 06:37 PM

Yea Rivers totally sucks...oh shit wait.

doomy3 02-10-2009 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5477430)
I can link you to an article where an NFL coach says you're wrong.

And I can link you to an article where an NFL coach thinks a spread QB is going to revolutionize the NFL.

stevieray 02-10-2009 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5477351)
Thank you for taking the time to point out his apparent strengths. I respect that.

Now, on the flip side of that...

Do you agree that his weaknesses far outweigh his strengths?

And that those weaknesses may never be corrected because of the system he played in college?

Finally, do you see Tyler Thigpen having the potential to be a SB winning QB?

Because again, that's the goal.

Guys like Stafford and Sanchez are going to be drafted high because scout feel they have that potential.

Thigpen was taken in the 7th round.

(go ahead, someone break out the Tom Brady one-in-a-million scenario)


Yes, his weakness can be improved upon, while you can't teach hsi strengths.

Plenty of QB's have potential. doesn't mean they will succeed at this level...you just never know..stranger things have happened... and just for the fun of it...I'm reminded of acertian late round long snapper..

anyway, until we know what syytem they are going to run, we don't have a clue who they have an eye for or on..Pioli said you're going to be disappointed if you're looking for big name players..

pikesome 02-10-2009 06:38 PM

Why can't we start Thigpen and let Stafford/Sanchez sit? If they beat him in TC, cool. If not, letting Thigpen start doesn't seem like it can hurt the team (unlike starting Huard and not finding out Croyle was "delicate", damn you Carl!). Maybe we'll get lucky and Thigpen will learn/play himself in to a fat trade in a year or two and "the other dude" can lead us to bigger and better things. Or we Brett Farve the new dude and ride Thigpen to glory.

doomy3 02-10-2009 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5477446)
Yea Rivers totally sucks...oh shit wait.

Who said that?

You don't think the Chargers would be better with Brees?

And what are we waiting for? For Rivers to win a Super Bowl?

DeezNutz 02-10-2009 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5477445)
doesnt need one, just work on footwork. get the feet right everything else follows

And for this he'll likely need a wand.

This isn't an easy thing to do. I know it's in vogue to bash Curl--I'm as guilty of this as anyone--but if it were simple, even he'd have been able to accomplish it.

Micjones 02-10-2009 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5477429)
The only flash I saw in Atlanta was from gunfire at a television set.

Two minute drill in that very game if memory serves...
He helped get the offense in for 6 on an impressive drive.

notorious 02-10-2009 06:39 PM

The spread accomplished two things: 1. It covered up a pretty bad O-Line 1a. It gave Thigpen a better view of the field.



The spread has benefits, and I believe it will continue to grow due to the NFL tying the hands of the D-Backs ehhh, behind their back. The way PI and illegal contact are called is going to contribute to the spread becoming more wide-spread (no pun intended :) ).

When it comes to putting games away and the red zone, the spread shows it's weaknesses, though.

Thigpen will get his shot, so don't worry.


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