ROFL

The basis for my comments is that women cheat because they desire attention, both physical and mental. I never said anything about "strange." And I'm sure that they like the attention from their spouse/SO. But they also want to be made to feel wanted, loved, attractive, intelligent, etc. from others as well. I'm talking about base human genetics. And also individual chemical makeup. Most mammals are not monogamous. Approximately 90% in actuality. Some are though. This is primarily determined by the presence of a certain chemical in the brain that is secreted when the mammal (human or otherwise - this chemical was first noticed in the north american vole mouse and later found in humans as well) is around their mate of choice. Non-monogamous mammals do not secrete this chemical in any significant amount, but monogamous ones do. A lot of it. As well, the brain secretes a significant amount of dopamine during sexual intercourse. Even more in illicit affairs. Same stuff that is excreted in sky diving, bungee jumping, etc. And it's highly addictive.

There is a lot of factors, but yes, it does have to do with attention. Physical, mental, emotional attention. And what chemicals that are secreted in the brain as it relates to that attention. That was the basis for my tirade. And you have not refuted that one bit.

Interesting.

I used to use future tense in my glory days. Some chicks like being told what to do, "sexually"--(using the Demonpenz voice from his n00b song).

****, I don't have a problem blaming biology for my indiscretion. I don't buy it, but I'll do it.

I have a problem with...

On any given day what I want is the attention of my mate. Everything else is gravy.

If you had a horsecock and punished her womb with such amazing dexterity, you'd already have the video proof on youpRon.

Or on YourTube.

I like you for a lot of reasons but mostly because you're real and when you want to you can bare your soul on a message board. Men would be well advised to read and then re-read this very post from you to understand the psyche of the female mind. They don't live for the sex like we men do. They want to connect intimately with their mate. The sex is a healthy by-product of women feeling loved and cared for.

Selfishness is a very human trait exclusive of gender. We men battle selfishness and our egos. Neither are conducive to fostering a healthy relationship with a wife. If my buddies say I'm whipped, I regard that as a compliment. That generally indicates I'm paying attention to my wife and meeting her needs, something I was clueless in achieving during my first marriage. Women typically don't understand that we need to feel that respect because we're the hunters and providers.

The point is that our society and education system wants to teach history, reading, writing, math, cooking, sex, women's liberation, black history, and how to work on our cars but when is the last time you saw a secular class on how to make your marriage work - what makes you spouse tick so you can succeed in marriage? Where are those classes? Why can't we teach our youth how to communicate with their spouses and achieve marital happiness?

Perhaps this is because you are self-confident and have self-eseteem.

Trying to say women want this and that is absolute crap. A content, happy woman will want something entirely different than someone constantly needing affirmation and compliments.

Also, the age of a girl is important. Young girls don't know what they want as much as old women, and are more prone to try new things. Not all of them, but some.

I wonder why it is that so many women are not self confident and don't have self esteem? So much so that katipan or I would include myself are the exception to your rules?
Seems perhaps if you're the parent of a daughter, you might wonder about this?

How could they not struggle?

They're constantly berated with shit like, "Is a size 4 fat?" and recurring images of criticized, "imperfect" celebs. It's a byproduct of the culture in which we live.

Turn on E for 5 minutes.

No excuse. Just reality. Parents have to do a lot to overcome this.

Relationships are a two-way street.

However, you wanted attention. So you went out and got it. And I know your particular story from other stuff you've posted on here. At least from what you have said, drugs played an issue in your situation with your spouse. That creates a whole new set of problems that goes beyond the normal wanting/needing/desiring attention thing that is a part of basic human biology. Personally, I don't know what you were trying to accomplish by having an affair and also staying with a spouse who became addicted to drugs. That's a train wreck waiting to happen.

sorry, this is where i stopped, i can't help but share my cheater story now. this girl i dated last fall was coming out of a marriage in which the husband had been cheating for over five years. we dated for a few months before diferances caused us to split, but the whole time we dated i dealt with this manipulative "ex." he would call me at 6 in the am on a sunday, and say "make sure my wife makes it home in time to take care of our kids." anyways, like i said, couldn't agree on some issues, and we split. couple weeks ago i find out the two of them are getting back together. whats funny, he's managed to make her think it was her fault he cheated. i got some texts from them both last weekend, from her asking my forgiveness for her using me, from him for being the "root cause of my sins." my answer to both was the same. if it helps you sleep at night, sure. he proceeded to get preachy with me, thats when i pulled out one of my favorite denzel lines ever "forgiveness is between you and god." i left out the part about arranging their meeting. really, i can't wait till he cheats again, lol, and he will. he's a POS.

You leave me little to argue with and thats annoying.

Spot on with what? She wasn't getting the attention that she perceived she needed from her husband so she has an adulterous affair in order to fill that emotional void in her current relationship while still actively maintaining that said relationship? That's wisdom? That's what I should listen to? Am I missing something here?

From what I understand she DID NOT LEAVE or walk away. They lived together.

It was the OP who believed that a woman was living with a man she'd broken up with and not sleeping with him anymore. Yet, he was helping her with the bills. ROFL

Sorry, the woman is not the bad person in this situation. She was doing what she was ALLOWED to do.