It's not. I was just refuting your point. That's all.

Scott Fujita never LED THE LEAGUE IN TACKLES FOR LOSS.

And Fujita is a good, solid linebacker whom the Chiefs were dumb to let leave. And he exceeded his draft position.

Me too. Pretty irrelevant for the purposes of our discussion, though.

What? How does that back up your argument? That has nothing to do with your failed point that none of DJ's issues have anything to do with poor coaching.

Yea, I am the idiot. I would guess that using the logic you did above, you could believe the more you type and fail to back up your constant blather the dumber I look.

Failed point? So, you're telling us that if Derrick Johnson was coached up, he'd be a better player? Based on what? What makes you think he'd be a better player with different coaches?

How is it that the defensive coaches all suck, but Jared Allen didn't and doesn't suck? Can't you just for one ****ing minute say to yourself "Hey, he's just not that good?"

I know

:D

Had you been paying attention earlier, you would see that I explained that to you in post # 217. Instead of you having to figure out how to find post 217 I have cut and paste it below. If you still don't get the point then I am wasting my time arguing with someone who is unable or unwilling to comprehend simple logic.

I think Jared Allen could rush the passer, more or less sucked against the run,and was fooled by the bootleg all the damn time. What he was good at was a gift he had that didn't need to be coached. Go kill the QB.

What he sucked at were things that should have been coachable.

He has 1 skill he is good at and it just happens to be a very valuable skill. I am not knocking him, I wish he was still a Chief, but to use him as an example to say its not possible DJ has suffered from poor coaching is ****ing absurd.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

The guy had three different linebackers coaches in four years. Gunther ****ing Cunningham filled his head full of shit for his entire career. The Chiefs changed his position three times in four years.

The guy DEFINITELY hasn't been given the proper coaching. He's been ****ed with so much it's no WONDER he hasn't filled his potential.

Oh. I thought it was his inability to take on and defeat blockers, which has been a shortcoming of his since college.

Turd, meet polish rag.

Teams would be lining up to sign Derrick Johnson if the Chiefs released him. He's no turd.

In the context of the conversation, he's the metaphoric turd, and this is certainly accurate.

Johnson is who the scouts thought he was. /in my best Green voice/ He fell for a reason. He's ok, but far from elite, and a HUGE disappointment for his draft position.

Who said he was a turd?

I said that first off, his play over the last four seasons in no way justifies a top fifteen selection overall, that in retrospect he'd be a fourth rounder and finally, that his play is average.

Average.

Not great.

Not poor.

Average.

How in the HELL can you argue differently?

Me.

He was the metaphoric turd in my earlier post.

JFC. Football isn't rocket science. Either you can play or your can't.

Derrick Johnson shows up some weeks, and disappears others. That's on HIM.

Not the coaches. Not the scheme. It's on Derrick Johnson.

Oh, if he was such a playmaker (as you suggest), how did he drop a sure-fire TD against the Jets? The ball was in his ****ing hands!

He is average.

Clay was the metaphoric turd?

:p

I should start using more ambiguous antecedents in an effort to insult more posters...:hmmm:

And I'm sure he'd disappoint them as well.

Or be like me and continue to directly insult them

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