Who is this legit franchise quarterback that was available to the Chiefs?

Sanchez?

12 TDS
20 INTS
2444 YDS
63.0 Rating

Cassel

16 TDS
16 INTS
2924 YDS
69.9 Rating

And then consider that the Cassel was the second most sacked quarterback in the league and the Chiefs receivers led the league in dropped passes.

:bong:

My opinion of Weis went up dramatically. My opinion of Haley and Pioli stayed the same.

Honestly, If Weis thinks Clausen is worth it at 25, he's worth it at 5. You're drafting him there to be a QBOTF.

Sanchez had two very bad games. He also won two playoff games and was leading a third when his team was beaten by Peyton Manning.

The Jets will add at least one more receiver this off-season and Sanchez will continue to improve.

This. It's refreshing to see.

Sanchez won more than that loser Tony Gonzalez has won his whole career. Lets quit with the Sanchez/Cassel comparisons. Sanchez will be the better QB.

Must suck to be that QB who has beaten Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. Has 2 playoff wins and played his best game in the biggest game of his NFL career. Must suck be a nOOb QB who didn't shit himself in the playoffs either. Must suck to be the Jets who can build for the next 15 years around Sanchez.

I'm sure he will, but he's playing behind one of, if not the, best offensive lines in the NFL and had the #1 rated defense to cover his ass. But yet, he threw for 500 yards less than Cassel and had four less touchdowns, four more interceptions and a substantially lower quarterback rating. Cassel played behind the worst offensive line in football, had no defense to rely on, and his receivers led the league in drops. But he still had a better year than Sanchez, and people around here are ready to tar and feather Matt. You put Sanchez on this Chiefs team and think about what his stats would have looked like. If he could only throw for 2400 yards and a 63 QB rating on that Jets team, how bad would it have been here? But the vast majority of this board is more than happy to crucify Cassel.

Matt Cassel had a better rookie year. Higher TD/Int ratio, threw for more yards, higher QB rating. He had a better rookie year than Stafford, too. Great, young prospect who will only get better. And he's only in his early 20s.

I don't want to crucify Cassel, I wan't to crucify him upside down. I'd like to garrote him with Concertina Wire, and then have Ivar the Boneless give his worthless ass a Blood Eagle, topped off with him being drawn and quartered by four Clydesdales at midfield of Arrowhead. But first, I'd like to clone him, just so I could see it done to him again.

And yet, in spite all of this, I still hope he succeeds.

Why are you even here? Go buy a Sanchez jersey and start posting on the Jets fan boards.

How about giving the guy a chance?

I mean, shit we can keep beating a dead horse or we can look at the Cassel situation as a player that nobody in the world knows his upside.

I wanted no part of the trade, but whats done is done. I have hope that we have the right people around him so he can be successful in the future.

As Ive said before, I would be very very happy if we took Jimmy Clausen, but it isnt gonna happen.

I am trying to keep a glass half full outlook on the guy and hope that the reasons he wasnt successful last year will be lessened and he will get more comfortable and start to make plays. I dont know if that can happen, but with Weis as his OC and QBC he should have the best opportunity of doing so as possible.

Dropped passes
no qb coach
no offensive coordinator
line consistency

We have VASTLY improved two of those with the Weis hire and we fix the problems we have at receiver problem and are better on the line before we take the field next year. I have hope. We

2009 was a complete loss of a year to an already advanced aged and under-experienced qb. Not a good start to the regime, but hopefully its salvageable.

I don't think Cassel's upside is nearly as great as Sanchez's upside.

Sanchez is just getting started and Cassel is nearly 28 years old.

Actually Pioli drafted Chad Pennington in the first round.

I really wish the Aids Tree would hit you full force, you make CoMo and Hootie look like geniuses.

Pioli didnt work for the Jets in 2000.