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DeezNutz 12-11-2012 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9201152)
so the plan is to take a less talented, riskier prospect at QB (the most important position) so that we can draft a LB with the #1 pick?

is this what people are seriously discussing?

There's no logic with this approach unless you're willing to move up to get the player, which likely would be needed given the dynamics of the current CBA.

There's a lot of Dayton Mooreishness going on in this thread. No reason to overthink anything. Maximum value: stay where you are and use the talent that's available.

htismaqe 12-11-2012 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9201152)
so the plan is to take a less talented, riskier prospect at QB (the most important position) so that we can draft a LB with the #1 pick?

is this what people are seriously discussing?

Yes.

Seriously.

kcbubb 12-11-2012 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9201160)
Lets see...........


Both.

There is no reason not too.

This is the Chiefs. I don't see them keeping both. Do you? Really? With the history of the Chiefs organization, you think they keep both?

htismaqe 12-11-2012 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 9201162)
How many teams will take a QB in round 1 if the chiefs don't?

At least 4 QBs go in the 1st.

Austin Ed 12-11-2012 09:48 PM

[QUOTE=DeezNutz;9200695]And my post was more serious than not. You have a bunch of people who haven't seen him play making comments.

That's the nature of a message board.[/


They are asking the exact same question about Geno on the Jacksonville board---The Jungle. Answer there from a WVU fan is that Geno has underpeformed against better defenses, and has had problems finding receivers and has been less accurate in critical third down situations. I saw him play in person against Texas early in the year and he was lights out. However, he was not the same guy in some other games (eg, TTU and K State).

O.city 12-11-2012 09:48 PM

What he's saying is taht if you decide to wait and get your guy in the second, it' out of your hands whether you can draft him or not.


Why not just take him early so you know you can draft him.

DeezNutz 12-11-2012 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 9201162)
How many teams will take a QB in round 1 if the chiefs don't?

No clue. We can guess, but we don't have the luxury of trying to get lucky. GB did in '05, and they played their hand beautifully.

We must be intelligently proactive.

ILChief 12-11-2012 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 9201162)
How many teams will take a QB in round 1 if the chiefs don't?

Jacksonville
Oakland
Buffalo
Arizona

O.city 12-11-2012 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 9201169)
This is the Chiefs. I don't see them keeping both. Do you? Really? With the history of the Chiefs organization, you think they keep both?

With the money likely coming off the books, you almost are going to have to sign them to get to the floor.

kcbubb 12-11-2012 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9201168)
Yes.

Seriously.

Tyler Bray is just as physically talented as Geno Smith. He has all the upside.

O.city 12-11-2012 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9201178)
No clue. We can guess, but we don't have the luxury of trying to get lucky. GB did in '05, and they played their hand beautifully.

We must be intelligently proactive.

I'd venture to say teams start doing this more often, with as important as the position has become.


Hell, if I were the Steelers GM and someone like Barkley or Wilson fell to me in the first round, I'd think long and hard about taking him.

DeezNutz 12-11-2012 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9201185)
I'd venture to say teams start doing this more often, with as important as the position has become.


Hell, if I were the Steelers GM and someone like Barkley or Wilson fell to me in the first round, I'd think long and hard about taking him.

You know who else should think QB? Denver, depending how they've evaluated Asswhiler this year.

O.city 12-11-2012 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 9201183)
Tyler Bray is just as physically talented as Geno Smith. He has all the upside.

Physically, maybe.


Mentally, it's not close.

It's not all physicality. Bray has had 2 first round draft picks to throw too and hasn't put up good numbers.

O.city 12-11-2012 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9201187)
You know who else should think QB? Denver, depending how they've evaluated Asswhiler this year.

Well, they have a GM who seems to get it, so they probably will.

kcbubb 12-11-2012 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 9201180)
Jacksonville
Oakland
Buffalo
Arizona

You can probably add the Jets and the Eagles to the list... Foles may get the job. But lets say 6 to be conservative. Who are your top 7 QBs?


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