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O.city 01-05-2013 04:13 PM
Yep, we need an OT or ILB with the first overall pick.

Chiefs Pantalones 01-05-2013 04:13 PM
Any player could bust. It doesn't matter what spot you take him. The whole draft is a freaking crap shoot. Just take your highest QB on your board at #1. What have we got to lose?

Mr. Flopnuts 01-05-2013 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 9285339)
Any player could bust. It doesn't matter what spot you take him. The whole draft is a freaking crap shoot. Just take your highest QB on your board at #1. What have we got to lose?
The next Tyson Jackson, Glenn Dorsey, or Ryan Simms.

whoman69 01-05-2013 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9285427)
The next Tyson Jackson, Glenn Dorsey, or Ryan Simms.
That sounds like a steep price...tell me it can't be so. BTW, I'm going to steal that sig pic

DaneMcCloud 01-05-2013 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9285427)
The next Tyson Jackson, Glenn Dorsey, or Ryan Simms.
I just hope that the Chiefs and Reid don't take a QB #1 because they need a starting QB. I hope that they take a QB at #1 because he fits the system, is the right guy, etc.

We're a ways off from the Combine, so we'll know more after it's completed, but I just don't want them to reach.

O.city 01-05-2013 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9285523)
I just hope that the Chiefs and Reid don't take a QB #1 because they need a starting QB. I hope that they take a QB at #1 because he fits the system, is the right guy, etc.

We're a ways off from the Combine, so we'll know more after it's completed, but I just don't want them to reach.
What else would you take?

DeezNutz 01-05-2013 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9285523)
I just hope that the Chiefs and Reid don't take a QB #1 because they need a starting QB. I hope that they take a QB at #1 because he fits the system, is the right guy, etc.

We're a ways off from the Combine, so we'll know more after it's completed, but I just don't want them to reach.
Any player in this draft could easily be described as a reach at 1/1, so we need to take the QB.

The QB whom we select here will be more talented than any QB whom we could get via trade or FA, so I see it as a no-brainer.

DaneMcCloud 01-05-2013 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9285544)
Any player in this draft could easily be described as a reach at 1/1, so we need to take the QB.
I was unable to follow college football this past Fall to the extent I have in the past, so I'm am currently unable to argue effectively against this point.

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The QB whom we select here will be more talented than any QB whom we could get via trade or FA, so I see it as a no-brainer.
Really? I know a bunch of CPer's love Geno, but when I watched him on a few occasions, I saw nothing that said "Franchise QB Savior". Same with Bray. I only watched a few quarters of Wilson and saw nothing of Glennon.

The bottom line for me is that I'd hate to see the Chiefs take a QB because they NEED a QB, then end up with Jake Locker or Blaine Gabbert.

That, to me, would suck and further set back the franchise.

EagleRob 01-05-2013 05:06 PM
One thing to consider is whoever gets drafted in this spot will command a $50+ million dollar deal over seven years. It's not a spot to just take a guy that doesn't fit the system, especially a QB. You are looking for a difference-maker at any position and Reid will take the best player on the board at QB, OT, LB, DT, or DB in that order if and only if 1) he is worthy of a franchise player status, 2) he can't find a trade partner willing to trade down for multiple picks.

jd1020 01-05-2013 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by EagleRob (Post 9285568)
One thing to consider is whoever gets drafted in this spot will command a $50+ million dollar deal over seven years.
You don't follow football much do you?

O.city 01-05-2013 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9285566)
I was unable to follow college football this past Fall to the extent I have in the past, so I'm am currently unable to argue effectively against this point.



Really? I know a bunch of CPer's love Geno, but when I watched him on a few occasions, I saw nothing that said "Franchise QB Savior". Same with Bray. I only watched a few quarters of Wilson and saw nothing of Glennon.

The bottom line for me is that I'd hate to see the Chiefs take a QB because they NEED a QB, then end up with Jake Locker or Blaine Gabbert.

That, to me, would suck and further set back the franchise.
Meh, or they could also end up with Rodgers or Rothlisberger.

Set the franchise back from what? End up with ANOTHER 1st overall pick?

DaneMcCloud 01-05-2013 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9285531)
What else would you take?
I don't know. I've always been weary of making this type of determination before The Combines and before everyone has declared.

All I know is that year after year, teams "Fall In Love" with certain players, so I find it a bit difficult to suggest that "no team" would be willing to move up in the draft.

EagleRob 01-05-2013 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9285573)
You don't follow football much do you?
I watch a lot of football but don't remember what a 1/1 pick commands in terms of $$. Been a while.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-05-2013 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9285578)
I don't know. I've always been weary of making this type of determination before The Combines and before everyone has declared.

All I know is that year after year, teams "Fall In Love" with certain players, so I find it a bit difficult to suggest that "no team" would be willing to move up in the draft.
I hope we fall in love with one ourselves.

DeezNutz 01-05-2013 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9285566)
Really? I know a bunch of CPer's love Geno, but when I watched him on a few occasions, I saw nothing that said "Franchise QB Savior". Same with Bray. I only watched a few quarters of Wilson and saw nothing of Glennon.

The bottom line for me is that I'd hate to see the Chiefs take a QB because they NEED a QB, then end up with Jake Locker or Blaine Gabbert.

That, to me, would suck and further set back the franchise.
If not the draft then who and how? Alex Smith, whom the Chiefs will have to trade for? No franchise is winning a SB with him. Flynn? That would be an incredibly stupid move. Cousins? Of course not.

There is nothing but mediocrity available via trade or FA, so we have to take the chance on someone with legit upside, and who is every bit the equal of the FA/trade lot.

New CBA makes it easy to turn and burn if a more appealing option appears, even if that's next off-season.


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