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Sweet Daddy Hate 02-13-2013 10:27 AM

youll become the thig lyfe for harvin, DaKC. I can see it already.
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mcaj22 02-13-2013 10:52 AM

what scenario can they take? let us hypothetically explore and guess

excluding all franchise tag scenarios here...

scenario 1
re-sign Bowe for 5-50. 6-66, whatever
draft WR in first 3? 4? rounds or sign a veteran
start season

scenario 2
give up a 4?5? swap 3rds? For Harvin
pay Harvin 5 for 50
let Bowe walk
draft a WR in first 3 or 4 rounds or sign a veteran (Greg Jennings) for like 3 or 4-28/30
start season


I dont see a scenario where they sign Bowe long term and then trade for Harvin and also pay him, so it is either one or the other. that is way too much money in two WRs, and I dont think many NFL teams do that. Giants and Pats come to mind, anyone else? Cowboys I guess.

The Bad Guy 02-13-2013 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by HotCarl (Post 9394900)
Class, character, leadership. The profile of players you look for in order to have a TEAM.

Blah, blah, blah.

I'm so glad that the last regime has programmed fans to believe that talent isn't the most important component of a team.

DaKCMan AP 02-13-2013 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9399404)
youll become the thig lyfe for harvin, DaKC. I can see it already.
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Harvin is Awesome. DaKCMan_AP is Awesome. Profit.

Rausch 02-13-2013 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9399473)
Blah, blah, blah.

I'm so glad that the last regime has programmed fans to believe that talent isn't the most important component of a team.

Too fat/Omaha...

DaKCMan AP 02-13-2013 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9399469)
I dont think many NFL teams do that. Giants and Pats come to mind,

So.... teams that play/win Super Bowls?

In58men 02-13-2013 11:03 AM

Re-Sign Albert

Tag Bowe

Draft Wilson/Smith

Trade 34th pick for Harvin.

boogblaster 02-13-2013 11:04 AM

in truth .. most teams have players with baggage .. so trade for any upgrade .. or sign any free-agent thats a upgrade .. only way too win . but QB needed first .....

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-13-2013 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9399475)
Harvin is Awesome. DaKCMan_AP is Awesome. Profit.

lol
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mcaj22 02-13-2013 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9399489)
So.... teams that play/win Super Bowls?

in contrast

Dorsey came from the Packers who like their WRs to be young and cheap, essentially replenishing them every year or every other. Then let guys like Greg Jennings walk, because the depth is there

same with Philly, there was a reason they didnt want to give Desean Jackson 50 million and held out as long as they could. You dont really see them giving Jeremy Maclin a big contract after next season too? Every Chiefs fan wants him here because of that fact


These are the Dorsey/Reid type approaches, they wont pay big money for two WRs, they never have and never will

And the Packers have won Super Bowls and Andy Reid has been to a Super Bowl with this model, so that counters your Pats/Giants Super Bowl theory.

DaKCMan AP 02-13-2013 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9399934)
in contrast

Dorsey came from the Packers who like their WRs to be young and cheap, essentially replenishing them every year or every other. Then let guys like Greg Jennings walk, because the depth is there

same with Philly, there was a reason they didnt want to give Desean Jackson 50 million and held out as long as they could. You dont really see them giving Jeremy Maclin a big contract after next season too? Every Chiefs fan wants him here because of that fact


These are the Dorsey/Reid type approaches, they wont pay big money for two WRs, they never have and never will

And the Packers have won Super Bowls and Andy Reid has been to a Super Bowl with this model, so that counters your Pats/Giants Super Bowl theory.

Not sure I totally agree. Young? Usually. Cheap? In 1999 the Packers made Antonio Freeman the highest paid WR. Three years ago they paid Jennings (almost $9 mil/year with $16 mil guaranteed).

In 2004 the Eagles paid Terrell Owens ($49 mil over 7 yrs) and he was already 30 years old.

htismaqe 02-13-2013 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9399934)
in contrast

Dorsey came from the Packers who like their WRs to be young and cheap, essentially replenishing them every year or every other. Then let guys like Greg Jennings walk, because the depth is there

same with Philly, there was a reason they didnt want to give Desean Jackson 50 million and held out as long as they could. You dont really see them giving Jeremy Maclin a big contract after next season too? Every Chiefs fan wants him here because of that fact


These are the Dorsey/Reid type approaches, they wont pay big money for two WRs, they never have and never will

And the Packers have won Super Bowls and Andy Reid has been to a Super Bowl with this model, so that counters your Pats/Giants Super Bowl theory.

That being said, Percy Harvin is unlike anything EITHER of them have ever had in Philly or Green Bay. He's a guy that can literally lineup anywhere and create a mismatch.

No, they don't have a history of paying multiple WRs. I would argue Harvin isn't a WR.

ShowtimeSBMVP 02-13-2013 02:16 PM

Report: Harvin could be seeking Megatron/Fitzgerald money
Posted by Josh Alper on February 13, 2013, 3:13 PM EST
Percy Harvin, Christian Ponder AP

We reported on Monday that Vikings wide receiver Percy Harvin is planning to hold out if he doesn’t get a long-term deal from the team this offseason, something that could be complicated by his reported contract demands.

Josina Anderson of ESPN.com spoke to a “high-ranking Vikings source” about Harvin and the source said he didn’t think a holdout would solve Harvin’s contract desires. That’s because of Harvin’s lack of leverage in the situation, but the standoff could also be impacted by the fact that Harvin apparently sees himself in the same class with Larry Fitzgerald and Calvin Johnson as the best wideouts in the NFL.

“[Harvin] is a star player in our league, but I would imagine that he sees himself in the class of the top wide receivers in our league,” the source said. “I do know at his production, when he was healthy, he was producing along with Larry and Calvin and those guys. I could see Harvin’s agent making the argument that he deserves their type of pay.”

He can make any argument he likes, but it’s hard to put Harvin in that kind of company based on their careers to this point. Harvin does many things well, but he doesn’t overwhelm defenses the way the other two men have done in their careers. Johnson just signed an eight-year, $150.5 million deal before the 2012 season and Fitzgerald is in the middle of his own eight-year, $128.5 million deal with plenty of guaranteed money in both cases.

If Harvin really is looking for that kind of money, his chances of getting a contract with the Vikings aren’t too hot. They probably won’t look any better to another team, which could mean this saga has a while to play out.

BossChief 02-13-2013 02:28 PM

Those two contracts ****ed up everything for the current crop of receivers trying to get paid.

NOBODY outside of a star quarterback is worth 20 million a year in today's NFL.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-14-2013 01:25 AM

this. Those numbers are ****ing ludicrous.
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