Question: has there ever been a draft in which no quarterback was taken in the first round?

Foles is less of an unknown than ANY of the QB's in the draft. He's actually got a half season or so of actual NFL football to look at.

Foles is less of an unknown than Matt Flynn. Flynn's got one game to look at, and the fact that he got outplayed by a 3rd round rookie. (True, that rookie looks pretty special, but still.) I'd be bummed if we went with Flynn.

Foles is MORE of an unknown than Alex Smith; although I think with Smith you kind of have an idea of the ceiling. Foles you have an idea where the floor is, but the ceiling is to be determined. I'd be mildly disappointed if we went with Smith. This IS the same thing we've done for going on 3 decades.

IF Reid and Dorsey aren't into G. Smith and feel like the dropoff to the Barkley/Wilson/Nassib/Dysert guys is nada, I'd not be opposed to trading a pick for Foles and taking whichever of those guys at the top of the 2nd that they like as insurance. Two young QB's (one that's ready to play and has some experience in THIS offense with THIS coach, and one that's probably not quite there yet) would bode well for the future.

Sounds like you're in full "gotta get these guys a championship" desperation mode.

Yep, that's how you end up with STEVE BONO.

Foles ain't Bono.

I'm not opposed to trading a 3rd or 4th for Foles and having him COMPETE for a starting job.

We both know that's not what's going to happen. They'll hand him the keys.

There's absolutely no way to spin it otherwise - it IS Matt Cassel all over again.

He isn't Brett Favre either.

You're rationalizing again.

Except that it's not.
Foles is a 24 year old kid, who started and played well in college, who has a good arm and played pretty well on a shit team with little help as a rookie.

Cassel never played a down of college football, has a weak arm and took what had been an 18-1 team the previous season to a 10-6 record (with the scheduling gods playing the Pats against what was a horrible NFC West).

You cannot compare him to Cassel, they're nothing alike in any way, shape, form, experience level, background, physical attribute, or potential. They are literally two white guys who play QB and the similarity ends there.

The situation would be more like when GB traded a #2 for Brett Favre back in like '91 or '92 or whatever. If Reid thinks Foles is better than any of the possible draftees I'm good with it. I'd still like a high-ish pick to hedge the bet, though, and I like Nassib as a guy you could groom and hedge the bet.

I don't think Reid just hands anyone anything, it doesn't seem to be his MO. I would expect that Foles would start over any second round QB and Stanzi just based on past performance, but I don't think Reid would stick with him if there's a better player on the bench like Pioli did.

and even thats pushing it. Favre barely even played for the Falcons in 91, so Foles has alot more experience at this point in his career than Favre did.

I'm not even FOR this, really. I'd say I think trading a pick for Foles would be plan B as long as they draft a QB at the top of the 2nd to develop/compete.

I'd still prefer to draft Geno at #1.

Id like to draft Geno and still trade for Foles or another QB.

But ill trust whatever decision these guys make....at least initially.

But in another thread you not only want to trade a high draft pick but also sign a malcontent to a huge deal. How is that different?

No, he's a former 3rd round pick who played good (not great) in a 1-read spread offense, taking almost 80% of his snaps out of the shotgun.

He played flat above average ball as rookie while still taking 75% of his snaps out of the shotgun.

The ONLY reason he's even being talked about is because people are suddenly ready to just blindly trust Reid, as if the whole Scott Pioli thing never happened.

What's funny is the Chiefs have shown exactly ZERO interest in Nick Foles and the Eagles have shown exactly ZERO interest in trading him.

Percy Havin is one of the most dangerous players in the NFL. He was a legit MVP candidate before getting hurt last year.

A guy that can score each and every time he touches the ball is ABSOLUTELY different.

Mvp candidate? Youve lost your damn mind.