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ViperVisor 12-01-2014 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 11160388)
With how bad our OL is, and our lack-luster receiving.. I'm surprised we haven't adopted more of a spread offense similar to what Chip is running in philly now. Alex is a viable running threat off the zone read, and we can even package JC/Davis/DAT/Bowe/Kelce and run a Gus Malzahn-ish read option/jet sweep play action game.

KC hasn't had the depth chart to do much of it.

Haven't had a #2 WR let alone a #3 like Jordan Matthews. Probably the #2 now after the last month pushing Cooper down to 3.

And if you do it you take one of the best FBs in the NFL out of the lineup.

And it's not like Philly has actually been doing great on offense.

Baby Lee 12-01-2014 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11160240)
Our WRs are not bottom 5....and neither is the offensive line.

There's something lower than bottom 5?

The WRs may suffer from how bad the OL is, but that OL is 1970s expansion team bad.

ThaVirus 12-01-2014 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ViperVisor (Post 11160474)
KC hasn't had the depth chart to do much of it.



Haven't had a #2 WR let alone a #3 like Jordan Matthews. Probably the #2 now after the last month pushing Cooper down to 3.



And if you do it you take one of the best FBs in the NFL out of the lineup.



And it's not like Philly has actually been doing great on offense.


If we were able to spread out the offense and get guys in space with a QB that was willing to pull the trigger, our shit WRs would instantly start to look better.

The more dime defenses we saw would also create a ton of space for Jamaal to work with inside. Can you imagine Charles with the ball and only a MLB to stop him? That's what often happens when Lesean McCoy gets a carry.

Aspengc8 12-01-2014 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ViperVisor (Post 11160474)
KC hasn't had the depth chart to do much of it.

Haven't had a #2 WR let alone a #3 like Jordan Matthews. Probably the #2 now after the last month pushing Cooper down to 3.

And if you do it you take one of the best FBs in the NFL out of the lineup.

And it's not like Philly has actually been doing great on offense.

As much as i LOVE sherman, when he is in the game with JC, they just walk a safety into the box. Sherman/Fasano pretty much spells run, Sherman/Kelce more often I would like to see. Maybe even flex Kelce in the slot how they used to with Gonzo.

Frosty 12-01-2014 04:13 PM

Does anyone have access to the All 22 view and could provide screen shots to show who and if anyone was open for a hot read when Smith was under pressure?

OnTheWarpath15 12-01-2014 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 11160643)
Does anyone have access to the All 22 view and could provide screen shots to show who and if anyone was open for a hot read when Smith was under pressure?

It isn't made available until later in the week - but it's been used before to show Alex missing wide open guys and people still make excuses.

ThaVirus 12-01-2014 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 11160643)
Does anyone have access to the All 22 view and could provide screen shots to show who and if anyone was open for a hot read when Smith was under pressure?


I don't even give a shit if he just throws the ball at a guy's feet when he has free runner coming up the middle.

An incomplete pass is better than a sack every day of the week.

Hammock Parties 12-01-2014 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 11160643)
Does anyone have access to the All 22 view and could provide screen shots to show who and if anyone was open for a hot read when Smith was under pressure?

I will take a look tomorrow.

Frosty 12-01-2014 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11160674)
I don't even give a shit if he just throws the ball at a guy's feet when he has free runner coming up the middle.

An incomplete pass is better than a sack every day of the week.

This is true.

Frosty 12-01-2014 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Alex's Wins (Post 11160681)
I will take a look tomorrow.

Thanks

hometeam 12-01-2014 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 11160643)
Does anyone have access to the All 22 view and could provide screen shots to show who and if anyone was open for a hot read when Smith was under pressure?

Fore sure Kelce was wide open on a little rub action when he took a sack one of the plays.

Kaepernick 12-01-2014 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11160111)
He's boring, but what does anyone suggest we do? Draft Derek Carr or Blake Bortles?


I was literally surprised your GM did not draft Teddy Bridgewater rather than Dee Ford.

I thought, you sit Bridgewater behind Alex for 2 years and Bridgewater would be out of the gate like a shot in year 3. Alex would have been an awesome mentor, you still have a decent QB for 2 years for the bridge nibbling around the playoffs, then you have a chance at a franchise QB with Bridgewater.

Could have tagged Alex his 2nd year, made him play on the cheap contract this year.

Bridgewater might flop, but it was a great risk and Dorsey let it slip right through his fingers. Great linebackers are rare but far less rare than franchise QBs with top 10 potential. I'm not even saying Bridgewater had top 10 potential, but it was worth the risk.

Kaepernick 12-01-2014 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 11160133)
Teddy Bridgewater and Johnny Manziel were also possibilities last year. There are going to be some growing pains with both, but at QB if you don't have upside you don't have shit and that's why we have shit.


Dorsey really screwed the pooch passing on Bridgewater? I think Manziel carries far more risk, but even he was worth rolling the dice on. But passing on Bridgewater? Just a mistake.

Kaepernick 12-01-2014 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11160137)
Well I agree with that. But it's time for everyone to realize Smith is our QB for at least 2 more seasons, minimum.

And it's time for Reid to have a hard talk with him and look himself in the mirror the same time and realize WE HAVE TO THROW THE BALL DOWNFIELD


The Chiefs need to grab the best QB prospect they can just as soon as they can. This year if possible. He can then ride the pine for 2 years, starting in year 3, and meanwhile you have a very competent game manager to hold down the fort.

Alex Smith is an A+ mentor for young QBs and Andy is a decent QB guru. A young QB would be in a wonderful future position on the Chiefs.

The very worst thing your GM could do is to pass on a promising QB prospect to give Alex more weapons or beef up the O-line or defense. The sooner you draft a QB prospect for Alex to mentor, the sooner you are going to have the true franchise QB you need for playoff runs.

OnTheWarpath15 12-01-2014 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 11160753)
I was literally surprised your GM did not draft Teddy Bridgewater rather than Dee Ford.

I thought, you sit Bridgewater behind Alex for 2 years and Bridgewater would be out of the gate like a shot in year 3. Alex would have been an awesome mentor, you still have a decent QB for 2 years for the bridge nibbling around the playoffs, then you have a chance at a franchise QB with Bridgewater.

Could have tagged Alex his 2nd year, made him play on the cheap contract this year.

Bridgewater might flop, but it was a great risk and Dorsey let it slip right through his fingers. Great linebackers are rare but far less rare than franchise QBs with top 10 potential. I'm not even saying Bridgewater had top 10 potential, but it was worth the risk.

Bridgewater is throwing for more YPG than Smith, and doing so with 800 year old Greg Jennings as his WR1.


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