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RealSNR 11-09-2015 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 11872756)
Let's just exist in fantasy land for a minute:

If you can get Glass to bump the payroll to 155, you could even look at adding Heyward, Gordon, Zobrist and a #5 SP type. (155M payroll shouldn't even be a stretch after considering the revenue the last two years has brought and the earnings potential going forward. Additionally, the increased value of the TV contract if he keeps the fan-base engaged with a winning team will have a substantial impact on the franchise's value.)

As an additional idea, you could even look at dealing a Jarrod Dyson/Omar Infante package to provide some payroll relief in this scenario. Talk about a monster of a lineup, though:

1) Heyward
2) Zobrist
3) Cain
4) Hosmer
5) Morales
6) Moose
7) Perez
8) Gordon
9) Escobar

You have improved every aspect of your line-up here. Plus you give Holland a Medlen-like deal that gives him a chance to rehab, perform and re-enter free agency. (2/5.5/10[M])

Swap Escobar and Heyward and you have a deal :D

Saul Good 11-09-2015 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 11872773)
Swap Escobar and Heyward and you have a deal :D

I'm not a huge fan of Cain hitting third. He has a tendency to swing out of his shoes. I'd like to see him batting second or sixth.

BigCatDaddy 11-09-2015 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 11872689)
While it is a long contract, you can mitigate injury risk with insurance and your decline risk is probably even lower than the Gordon deal given that Heyward is 26 and Gordon is 31. Furthermore, the back-end of the deal will be offset by greater revenues from the new TV contract and inflation.

I wonder what the insurance premiums would be on that contract.

Nightfyre 11-09-2015 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 11872803)
I wonder what the insurance premiums would be on that contract.

Insurance premiums can be as much as 10% of the contract's annual value.
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/D...er-Injury.aspx

Saul Good 11-09-2015 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 11872808)
Insurance premiums can be as much as 10% of the contract's annual value.
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/D...er-Injury.aspx

They would be much higher on a 10 year deal than on a typical contract.

BigCatDaddy 11-09-2015 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 11872808)
Insurance premiums can be as much as 10% of the contract's annual value.
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/D...er-Injury.aspx

Thanks. Not too bad. You might be paying 22mil a year then.

Nightfyre 11-09-2015 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11872810)
They would be much higher on a 10 year deal than on a typical contract.

There are a ton of things you can do to the policy to modify the premium levels.

BigCatDaddy 11-09-2015 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11872810)
They would be much higher on a 10 year deal than on a typical contract.

I would assume pitchers would be higher than an OFer also.

Saul Good 11-09-2015 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 11872815)
There are a ton of things you can do to the policy to modify the premium levels.

Of course, but anything that reduces the premiums is going to involve assuming more of the risk. I don't think the policy would be necessary.

Saul Good 11-09-2015 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 11872816)
I would assume pitchers would be higher than an OFer also.

Much higher. How many outfielders sustain major injuries?

BigCatDaddy 11-09-2015 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11872826)
Much higher. How many outfielders sustain major injuries?

Just a lot of broke dicks.

Nightfyre 11-09-2015 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11872820)
Of course, but anything that reduces the premiums is going to involve assuming more of the risk. I don't think the policy would be necessary.

Insurance use should generally be limited. For example, insuring the early years may be preferable as you could potentially get a lower rate (I would assume a younger player would be at less risk for injury in an actuary's mind). Later years will be less important to insure because you have increased payroll flexibility, inflation, etc.

Saul Good 11-09-2015 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 11872834)
Insurance use should generally be limited. For example, insuring the early years may be preferable as you could potentially get a lower rate (I would assume a younger player would be at less risk for injury in an actuary's mind). Later years will be less important to insure because you have increased payroll flexibility, inflation, etc.

For those same reasons, I don't see the point of insuring a position player who isn't a catcher at all. Take that money and invest it in payroll. I don't give a shit if David Glass loses a few bucks on a bad contract, but I don't want him taking $10,000,000 a year that could otherwise be spent on talent going to protecting his investments.

Deberg_1990 11-09-2015 06:15 PM

Uh oh, Twins looking to add some pop

Win the rights to bargain with Korean slugger Byrug Ho Park


http://mweb.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on...-byung-ho-park

lewdog 11-09-2015 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 11872891)
Uh oh, Twins looking to add some pop

Win the rights to bargain with Korean slugger Byrug Ho Park


http://mweb.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on...-byung-ho-park

If the Twins could add some pitching, they'll be a good team next year.


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