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O.city 03-14-2017 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12782645)
How's Chris Baker get 3/$16.4 million and we give Logan $8 million for 1?

Baker's a better, more versatile player than Logan and his deal is worth a fraction of Logans. If the Redskins cut Baker next season, they'll have paid him $6 million for 1 season. If he shows to be worth it, they'll get him next year for another $4.8 million and if he's still productive, a season after that at $4.8 million.

That's the benefit of long-term contracts; there's actual upside built in. At the absolute worst, the Redskins are out less than the Chiefs are on Logan for a guy that was more productive than Logan last year. And at best they get 3 years of a guy that was good against the run and the pass last year for an AAV about 2/3 as much as we got for a pure run-stuffer.

Why the hell are we giving a guy $8 million to 'restore his value'? Jesus Christ, if his value isn't $8 million, exactly what the hell is it?
I don't know. Im trying to wrap my head around it.

Looking at the Giants for example and how big of a different snack made there. Maybe the chiefs see Logan as doing that here. But if that's the case, a 1 year deal is weird.

I don't know. Looks bad.

DJ's left nut 03-14-2017 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12782687)
Or they're planning on getting rid of Bailey or Howard.
Then you don't sign him to a 1 year deal.

Discuss Thrower 03-14-2017 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12782604)
They'll ****ing extend Colquitt.

The guy should've been gone TWO seasons ago. He's just a goddamn punter. Daniel should've been gone last year but Reid was terrified of having to use a backup. I mean just look at all the money that's been torched, not just on injured guys but on surperflous luxury players like Chase Daniel and Dustin Colquitt.

People grouse about the Chiefs waiting too long to sign Houston or Berry but that's not even the biggest problem, the problem is that they're going to be lugging around tens of millions in cap space that could've been offset by rollovers created through moving on from guys who simply aren't worth their production and were kept on the roster out of pure fear.

It's a good way to end up with a .500 ballclub in short order.
Pretty clear the priority is to all but insure KC doesn't crash below 8-8 from season to season.

DJ's left nut 03-14-2017 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 12782704)
Pretty clear the priority is to all but insure KC doesn't crash below 8-8 from season to season.
"HOW DOES BILL BELICHICK DO IT YEAR AFTER YEAR!?!?!?!"

{looks for $10 million in punters and backup QBs on roster....sees none}

Oh.

O.city 03-14-2017 12:24 PM
I've never understood the need for an expensive backup. If your qb goes down, you're ****ed anywah

The Franchise 03-14-2017 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12782733)
I've never understood the need for an expensive backup. If your qb goes down, you're ****ed anywah
Unless you're the Pats. Then you trade them for picks the next offseason.

Discuss Thrower 03-14-2017 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12782733)
I've never understood the need for an expensive backup. If your qb goes down, you're ****ed anywah
Unless you're the Colts.

And then your backups sucking shit get you Andrew Luck.

raybec 4 03-14-2017 12:30 PM
I was pretty glad we got him. I just hope the numbers are wrong. That would be the correct money if it was a two year deal instead of one.

Quesadilla Joe 03-14-2017 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12782733)
I've never understood the need for an expensive backup. If your qb goes down, you're ****ed anywah
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Gruden once asked Tom Moore why Peyton&#39;s backups didn&#39;t get more reps &#39;Fellas, if 18 goes down we&#39;re ****ed, and we don&#39;t practice ****ed.&#39;</p>&mdash; Sam Monson (@PFF_Sam) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Sam/status/197235934272552960">May 1, 2012</a></blockquote>
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Tribal Warfare 03-14-2017 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12782775)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Gruden once asked Tom Moore why Peyton&#39;s backups didn&#39;t get more reps &#39;Fellas, if 18 goes down we&#39;re ****ed, and we don&#39;t practice ****ed.&#39;</p>&mdash; Sam Monson (@PFF_Sam) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Sam/status/197235934272552960">May 1, 2012</a></blockquote>
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Then they won the Andrew Luck sweepstakes

kccrow 03-14-2017 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 12782743)
I was pretty glad we got him. I just hope the numbers are wrong. That would be the correct money if it was a two year deal instead of one.
They have to be wrong... KC couldn't even afford that contract. I think Rap's fax machine is broken and it's supposed to be 3 million with 1.68 guaranteed, but that'd make sense.

NJChiefsFan 03-14-2017 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12782327)
Quality moderation at work here, CP. Great job. :thumb:
Dude relax. They aren't politicians and this is still CP I hope. A sense of humor and thick skin is still ideal.

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12782615)
ah, don't be like that. Good fans blindly stick with their team no matter how badly they get pissed on.

/CPrules101
Are you seriously saying that staying loyal to 1 team no matter what is a CP thing? I would venture to say that almost all of the adult sports fans in the world believe in this.

LoneWolf 03-14-2017 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 12782677)
Only way this makes sense is if they see Bailey-Logan-Howard as the starters and Chris Jones as the sub nickel pass rusher
Huh? Chris Jones is their best DL. Why would the Chiefs seeing him as the sub nickel pass rusher make this deal make any more or less sense than it does now?

They made this deal because they obviously had a hole in their defense with Poe's departure and they needed a way to shore up the run defense from last season. We may think that the financials don't make sense, but I'm willing to trust that Dorsey knows more about what's going on than a bunch of keyboard GMs on ChiefsPlanet.

O.city 03-14-2017 01:13 PM
Jones tends to get pushed around vs the run. Hopefully a full offseason in the system gets that figured out.

Mav 03-14-2017 01:25 PM
Exactly what the Chiefs needed. A run stuffing interior lineman.


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