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ThyKingdomCome15 02-02-2022 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 16122741)
Mahomes sideline demeanor was disturbing to me at times this season.

Remember this?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Let’s do something special. They’re already counting us the f--k out.&quot; - <a href="https://twitter.com/PatrickMahomes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PatrickMahomes</a> on the sideline down 24-0 <br><br>Chiefs dropped 41 points unanswered after.<br><br>That fire ��<br><br>(via <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLFilms?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NFLFilms</a>)<a href="https://t.co/tKmz7VLbSA">pic.twitter.com/tKmz7VLbSA</a></p>&mdash; B/R Gridiron (@brgridiron) <a href="https://twitter.com/brgridiron/status/1217154066968727553?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Or this?

https://www.golfdigest.com/content/d...ck-mahomes.png

Or even this?

https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/wp-c...0&h=600&crop=1

Now we get him pouting on the bench by himself when the chips are down?

WTF?

Like is this all theater? That's the best explanation I can think of.

For a guy's play to drastically change is one thing. For his entire personality and demeanor to change is downright bizarre.

What the **** happened to him?
He lost his mojo after that first half blunder. Couldn't even make simple reads and throws after that.

kcbubb 02-02-2022 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 16123718)

The third down play is just ... it's astounding and sickening. He must've been terrified of a tipped ball in the end zone for an INT. The fact that they only needed a FG to tie must've been in his head, especially after he screwed up the drive at the end of the first half.
This is what happened. If you watch the 3rd down play, the spy lb that sacked could have tipped the pass. He should have made the throw but you nailed it. He had a tipped pass earlier in the game and you could see him say my fault after that tipped ball that resulted in the int. And they didn’t get the opportunity for the fg at the end of the half. He’s thinking about those things and doesn’t want to lose the game. He’s thinking, take the sack, run time & don’t give the bengals an opportunity bc the d is gassed, take the field goal and win it in overtime unless there is a super low risk opportunity with no time left. All of these other theories are crap.

stevieray 02-02-2022 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 16128024)
So, he runs around and burns clock and hopes to win the game in ot.
After 4 punts and an INT in two qtrs of football? ....and couldn't punch it in first and goal?

He missed only four of twenty-two passes in the first half, and only completed five in the second.

Listen this isn't just a bad half, it's one of the worst in playoff history. Its the mirror opposite.

I really honestly think there was huge fight/meltdown/confrontation that took place at halftime and it took the air out of this team and that game.

rabblerouser 02-02-2022 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16122754)
Mahomes has lost love for the game. Or they were paid off. Only two explanations
Stop with the "paid off" bullshit.

It's ****ing ridiculous.

rabblerouser 02-02-2022 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16124670)
I dunno, man.

To me that's easier to stomach than just about anything else.

Our superstars kinda pooped the bed. It doesn't happen often but when it happens to ANYONE they lose.

I can handle this in a 'shit happens when you party naked' sorta way. Every single player in the NFL, no matter how great, has puked on their shoes a time or two.

Patrick did and we lost. Okay.
But do you really believe that?

Do you believe that he just...missed 3 open receivers on one play? Forgot to throw the ball out of bounds to keep from being sacked? Forgot how to audible to a run when faced with 3 down linemen?

Seriously...the amount of fail to hit at once for that to happen was spectacular.

BigRedChief 02-02-2022 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 16128044)
I really honestly think there was huge fight/meltdown/confrontation that took place at halftime and it took the air out of this team and that game.
it’s the best explanation for the sudden and deep cavernous drop in his quality of play.

Far better than Mahomes took a bribe. The guy with $500 million contract and lots more commercial money would embarrass himself to everyone in a huge game the week after having one of the best playoff games ever.

kcbubb 02-02-2022 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16124277)
This team lives and dies with Mahomes, sorry.

They're not changing that.
It does but if the d is better mainly the dline, mahomes throws that pass to hardman for the td on 2nd down at the end of the 4th quarter. The bengals would have a little more than a minute to score but mahomes doesn’t believe the d stops them. And the d didn’t come close to stopping them in OT, so he might have been right.

THE PROBLEM is that mahomes has too much on him. I hope veach lives up to his presser and rebuilds the d line like he did the oline. We spent a ton on thuney and will spend a ton on brown. We need to spend a ton on the dline, chandler jones, and this will take some of the pressure off. A big name chandler takes some of the pressure off mahomes.

crayzkirk 02-02-2022 10:13 PM
I'm going with injury and the way the Bengals were playing the receivers. The TV broadcast didn't show it very often however it looked like the Bengals were getting home early and/or holding. One was very evident on Pringle and threw the timing off. The lob to Kelce also appears that he was being restricted prior to the ball getting there. After the bad interception, I think he started playing careful and thinking about everything instead of just trusting himself. I'm pretty sure Kelce wasn't all there either.

Like pretty much everything in life... The old bowling saying applies:

Trust is a must or your game is a bust.

Or a golfer that shanks one... it's hard to get the thought out of your head and just relax and 'do it' afterwards.

The game was such a mirror of the week 17 game; even down to a long pass where Hill gets his hands on the ball and can't bring it in. The first time was at the end of the first half, the second time was at the beginning of overtime. Very strange how similar the games were and they had the identical results...

rabblerouser 02-02-2022 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 16128044)
I really honestly think there was huge fight/meltdown/confrontation that took place at halftime and it took the air out of this team and that game.
There absolutely was.

The only thing we don't know is what it was about...

We know what my suspicion is, and I'll bet if we could be a fly on the wall that my suspicion is probably closer *and makes more sense* than anything anyone else has come up with...

rabblerouser 02-02-2022 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 16128024)
I don’t understand why the logic that pat was trying to run clock is not accepted here. He didn’t want to give the bengals time to score.
It's not accepted because it's ****ing ridiculous.

You don't run the clock by passing. Makes zero ****ing sense.

Passing plays are predicated on timing. Precision.

Buddha weeps...

BigRedChief 02-02-2022 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 16128059)
There absolutely was.

The only thing we don't know is what it was about...

We know what my suspicion is, and I'll bet if we could be a fly on the wall that my suspicion is probably closer *and makes more sense* than anything anyone else has come up with...
And who was fighting and over what?

rabblerouser 02-02-2022 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16128056)
it’s the best explanation for the sudden and deep cavernous drop in his quality of play.

Far better than Mahomes took a bribe. The guy with $500 million contract and lots more commercial money would embarrass himself to everyone in a huge game the week after having one of the best playoff games ever.
Well, the game WAS rigged. But by the NFL. Patrick's "bribe" for taking the dive was his paycheck.

Only an idiot thinks that people "get paid off" to rig these games.

We know for a fact coaches are involved, and owners. And the commissioner Players have also indicated as much.

So let's stop pretending that it doesn't happen, because it does.

And let's stop pretending that there's some unknown nefarious "they" who apparently "paid off" wither players or officials.

The players and officials do what they're told and cash their ****ing paychecks. Just like anyone else with a fucjing job to do.

rabblerouser 02-02-2022 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 16123580)

And why the hell would he throw the game? For money? Yeah I don't think he needs any. You think he's a closest Bengals fan? **** out of here w that bullshit.
You're a ****ing idiot.

His coach told him to.

That's why they got into a fight at halftime and Patrick played DUMB as ****.

THE NFL RIGS THEIR OWN GAMES.

2 COACHES CAME OUT AND ADMITTED AS MUCH TODAY.

Maybe you missed that news...

kcbubb 02-02-2022 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 16128044)
After 4 punts and an INT in two qtrs of football? ....and couldn't punch it in first and goal?

He missed only four of twenty-two passes in the first half, and only completed five in the second.

Listen this isn't just a bad half, it's one of the worst in playoff history. Its the mirror opposite.

I really honestly think there was huge fight/meltdown/confrontation that took place at halftime and it took the air out of this team and that game.
Agreed but it was Probably the opposite at halftime, Andy was probably too complacent. Bengals switched some things up, we didn’t adjust. We didn’t run the ball, which drives me crazy. Teams that run the ball and produce long drives don’t have this problem. Bengals also played really well in the 2nd half. We also had some bad luck with not catching some balls that we often do, tipped pass for ints and the refs not calling holding. Perfect storm of bad things that combined to produce a terrible 2nd half. The conspiracy stuff is crazy.

I’m just trying to explain why mahomes didn’t punch it in at first and goal. All of those reasons I posted previously are completely rational considering what happened earlier in the game.

Abba-Dabba 02-02-2022 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 16128044)
I really honestly think there was huge fight/meltdown/confrontation that took place at halftime and it took the air out of this team and that game.
That is what I am leaning to as well.

After Mahomes threw the pass to Tyreek at the end of the 1st half. EB was visibly upset. There was no hiding it. My theory is that EB and Mahomes had a confrontation during the half.


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