Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16526687)

Can Christian or Prince be that much worse than what OBJ is giving us now? You probably lose out on some run blocking but who the **** cares.

Originally Posted by KC Hawks (Post 16527401)

Does DJ's left nut want to trade for DJ for the name alone?

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16527405)

No !@#$ing way that happened.

I've spent a day and a half in this thread without making reference to this and we simultaneously post it?

Aight - you win this round, sir.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16527350)

They've gotta trade Burns. And almost certainly Moore. I don't see any way around it.

Look at the guys they have on that cap next season. Those are NOT easy contracts to get out of.

You can spin your way out of Elfein pretty easily and clear $5 million. Moton is sitting on signing and restructure bonuses that will accelerate not to mention $11 million in guaranteed salary next season. That's a $24 million cap hit that's damn near inescapable.

McCaffrey could be cut and you'd save $12 million in base but you'd accelerate a bunch onto of signing and restructure bonuses as well. It would help you for 2024 but only gains you about 4 million in space in 2023. Honestly, it may still be necessary.

Shaq Thompson is cut, but it's gonna hurt - freeing up $24 million but accelerating $11 million onto the cap. Still a no-brainer for a cut that should get them about $13 million in space. Maybe you restructure him and keep him with half that figure but pay for it in 2024 (y'know, pull a 'Clark').

Robbie Anderson is probably another cut; clears about $22 million with $9 million in dead cap; another $13 million or so in space.

Donte Jackson's roster bonuses are guaranteed and his outstanding signing bonuses cost more than his base - he's staying with a $14 million cap hit next year. Austin Corbett's salary is guaranteed but they could probably trade him with minimal damage. They'd have some residual damage in 2024 for their troubles but it may be necessary given their situation.

So presume Thompson and Anderson are cut - that frees up $26 million and brings their number down to about $218 million on a $227 million projected cap. But you figure they'll need about $11 million for their draft picks so now they're back up to $230 million and with still only 40 guys under contract.

You you trade away Burns you'd have $13 million and need 11 guys to get to the 51 player contracts counted for the purposes of the cap. You could probably do that without moving Moore or cutting McCaffrey.

I'd burn it down. The whole thing. See if you can get McCaffrey traded and if not, cut him. See if you can get a 1st for Burns. See if you can get a 1st for Moore.

See if you can get Corbett dealt for a 3rd day pick. Cut Thompson and Robbie Anderson. Cut Elflein. Trade Moton for a 3rd day pick.

They have $9 million in space right now so they can't do all that. Trading Burns now mostly washes - go ahead. Trading Moore now yields a $5 million cap hit. Trading McCaffrey now yields about $7 millon. So you're already out of room.

ALL these guys have low bases this year so moving them in-season frees up very little space but creates accelerations onto the cap.

I'm usually pretty good with this stuff but sweet fancy moses, this is hideous. I don't even know where you find more money. Bonus out Darnold's remaining base into an extension with 2 void years? It would at least allow you to make another trade or two this season instead of waiting until the new league year. Fine, let's do that - $18 million this season wrapped into a 5 year 'extension' with the base turned into signing bonus. Figure there's $14 million of that left or so and for teh sake of easy math let's plow $12 million of it into the 2023 cap via those years voiding out. So you've found an additional $12 million that would let you get Burns, McCaffrey and Moore traded this year, theoretically maximizing their value on the market. You could probably sneak a Corbett deal in there as well.

This is a Gordian knot. The more I do, the more tangled it gets.

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16527544)

I’d throw the Panthers a 2 next year and a 2 in 2024 for Moore.

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16527544)

I’d throw the Panthers a 2 next year and a 2 in 2024 for Moore.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16527550)

With no hesitation whatsoever.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16527609)

So 2 2's for Moore and our 1 for Burns.

We good?

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP (Post 16505898)

https://nflpa.com/reports/public-salary-cap-report

Chiefs have 700k in cap space they won’t be trading for anyone.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16527610)

Gotta pay for Moore's $19.5 million cap hit next year brotha.

Can't do that, figure out the T position AND pay for Burns without having a 1st round pick.

Moore for a couple 2nds, Jerry Hughes for a 5th.

We square?