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htismaqe 10-12-2022 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16525430)
Because context and interpretation matter.

I'm miffed as to why this needs explaining. I guess it's the difference in where and how and with whom we grew up.

Go ask a black person if they feel differently about being called a ****a vs ****er and see what they say.

Very, very different connotations.

So now you're advocating saying "****a" to a rando as some sort of social test?

I thought you weren't supposed to do that?

srvy 10-12-2022 01:25 PM

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staylor26 10-12-2022 01:29 PM

Thought this was interesting and relevant to the current discussion:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Alvin Kamara a legend for this. <a href="https://t.co/uX8cVrAF9M">pic.twitter.com/uX8cVrAF9M</a></p>&mdash; b♡ (@yohawkgawk) <a href="https://twitter.com/yohawkgawk/status/1580020779592601601?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 12, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

White kid DMs Kamara "good game ****a", and Kamara exposes him for use of the word.

The narrative I'm seeing is that "Kama trolls racist troll".

ToxSocks 10-12-2022 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16525432)
I'm miffed that you dont understand the rational reasoning that separates humans from animals that lets us process what's right and wrong, good and bad, and to come to a logical conclusion to not use a certain word.

A word that's culturally accepted and widely used, and widely understood, except among older white men who still think it's synonymous with ****er.

No one is asking you to use the word. Honestly, you probably couldn't use it anyway. Like i said, you either talk like that because you're from it or you're not.

But yes, black people just like being racist towards each other. That's it. Surely.

jd1020 10-12-2022 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16525448)
A word that's culturally accepted and widely used, and widely understood, except among older white men who still think it's synonymous with ****er.

No one is asking you to use the word. Honestly, you probably couldn't use it anyway. Like i said, you either talk like that because you're from it or you're not.

But yes, black people just like being racist towards each other. That's it. Surely.

Culturally accepted between people of the same race. How the **** do you not understand this?

I dont have to go into a store and wonder if someone is going to punch me in the face if I say, "Excuse me sir, do you mind if I slide in to get some cheese?" Why? Because at no point in that sentence did I use a term that is socially unacceptable for me to use.

You seem to think that your group of friends, however many that is, speak for the entire ****ing world. It's ignorance.

ToxSocks 10-12-2022 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16525449)
Culturally accepted between people of the same race.

This conversation is well past its expiration date, we're just spinning in circles now.

It's weird for you and your friends, it's not for me and mine. Moving on.

jd1020 10-12-2022 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16525460)
This conversation is well past its expiration date, we're just spinning in circles now.

It's weird for you and your friends, it's not for me and mine. Moving on.

It's weird for the majority of society outside of your bubble. I have no idea if my friends would be cool if I used the word, because I've never ****ing asked.

ThaVirus 10-12-2022 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16525386)
I've been around black people too

Stop the cap. You were in Pat's thread claiming he wasn't his child's father because she's super light-skinned lol

Anyone who's spent time around black folk knows genes can lead to a lot of different skin color, eye color, hair texture combinations.

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 16525406)
Find em and post em.

I dare ya.

Nah, I'm not gonna bother going through.

Still funny though.

ToxSocks 10-12-2022 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16525447)
Thought this was interesting and relevant to the current discussion:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Alvin Kamara a legend for this. <a href="https://t.co/uX8cVrAF9M">pic.twitter.com/uX8cVrAF9M</a></p>&mdash; b♡ (@yohawkgawk) <a href="https://twitter.com/yohawkgawk/status/1580020779592601601?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 12, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

White kid DMs Kamara "good game ****a", and Kamara exposes him for use of the word.

The narrative I'm seeing is that "Kama trolls racist troll".

Yeah i had biggo post explaining exactly this.

Kamara says it right there. "Do you actually talk like this"

White kid, "no it's not part of my vocabulary".

If you aint hood, and you don't talk hood, you don't look hood, then you're purposely using the word BECAUSE he's black. No shit that's gonna be called racist.

ToxSocks 10-12-2022 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16525463)
It's weird for the majority of society outside of your bubble. I have no idea if my friends would be cool if I used the word, because I've never ****ing asked.

Ok, well my bubble is the bubble that actually uses the word with regularity. So don't bother telling me how it should and shouldn't be used.

jd1020 10-12-2022 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16525470)
Ok, well my bubble is the bubble that actually uses the word with regularity. So don't bother telling me how it should and shouldn't be used.

I've never told you how it should or shouldnt be used once. You have decided that for yourself multiple times while talking about it.

Tribal Warfare 10-12-2022 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16525467)
Stop the cap. You were in Pat's thread claiming he wasn't his child's father because she's super light-skinned lol

Anyone who's spent time around black folk knows genes can lead to a lot of different skin color, eye color, hair texture .



Yeah, and I wouldn't ever say that to a black person on the street. It's my opinion, it doesn't mean I don't know etiquette when talking to a random person.

luv 10-12-2022 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16524234)
Gotta remember the stands are full of old fat bald white dudes with goatees and there isn't one single black or minority in the entire crowd. I don't think they are even allowed in the stadium.

So no possible way it could have been a black fan saying it.

Have you ever been to a game? I hope that's sarcasm.

htismaqe 10-12-2022 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16525475)
Yeah, and I wouldn't ever say that to a black person on the street. It's my opinion, it doesn't mean I don't know etiquette when talking to a random person.

You know, I find something interesting in this.

I speak German as well as English and am familiar with other languages. Many of those languages have proper pronouns and they're specifically used for people of status or people you don't know.

Perhaps we're just too comfortable with being "friendly" to strangers instead of being respectful and polite.

ToxSocks 10-12-2022 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16525471)
I've never told you how it should or shouldnt be used once. You have decided that for yourself multiple times while talking about it.

The original conversation was regarding the difference between "er" and "ga".

No idea what we're even talking about at this point.

That you don't like the "ga" version because it makes you uncomfortable? Because coming from an older white guy it's never going to sound right?

Ok.

And here in SoCal the word isn't nearly as big of a deal and is more or less just a part of modern street slang.

Fact is the word is used with high regularity with no offense taken. If that makes you feel some type of way i don't know what to say.

The entire point is ****er and ****a are two very different words with very different meanings amongst those who use them.


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