It’s not even remotely close to the Hill situation and not because of age. While I am not against KC losing Jones, his production has to be replaced. We can’t struggle getting pressure on the QB and then get rid of the most productive member of that line who probably has as many sacks as the rest of the line combined.

If we resign Jones, what does that mean for Sneed and Gay ?

Jones' value is absolutely peaking right now. He's probably going to finish 2nd in DPOY voting. If he could hit the open market right now, some team might offer him something insane like 4-6 years at $30M/per with $100M+ guaranteed. (Maybe my numbers are off, but just assume he wants a 4-year effective deal at Aaron Donald money.)

If Jones refuses to settle for anything less, what do you do as Veach?

I love the guy, but dynasties move their big money guys for picks and adjust their strengths as they draft.

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If he does that, you tell him we have your rights for 3 years or you can sign this extension that works great for both of us.

Man.....I know everyone wants to do this because of New England......

I'm so tired of New England and that shitty comparison. Yeah, they did it.

They absolutely lucked out into doing what they did. It just isn't gonna happen like that again anywhere, ever.

Yeah if Jones makes a huge stink about not getting an extension then that could be a pain. But he might be ok with playing for $28M then hitting the market.

I don't think franchising even once with Jones is realistic. The Chiefs don't want to be known as a team that does that to its veterans. They could have let Hill play out the last year of his deal then franchised him once or twice and got most of his good years.

But yeah, maybe in Jones' mind playing this year w/o an extension is just as much of an affront as being tagged. I dunno.

Screw New England.

I'm talking about other franchises that were set up but kept their expensive guys and got talent thin in the middle of the roster.

One injury to a vet and you are screwed.

The last 2 multiple franchise tags I can remember are Cousins and Bell. Both of those were huge distractions with a lot of rancor. The Chiefs don't want that. Even the Steelers are now all "We don't hold hostages". Seems like the Bell situation made them change their mindset.

Maybe franchising Jones once is an option. But when was the last time they even did that to a veteran after his 2nd contract like Jones? Seems like they reserve it for guys like Dee Ford and OBJ at the end of their first contract.

Whats easier to find though, the talent guys or the middle of the roster?

Jones is a DPOY candidate. Trade him, replacing that production with 2/3 guys is gonna take alot of things going right.

If we're gonna do this with JOnes, you have to probably start thinking about moving Kelce at some point.

I would rather have 4 greek freaks at less $$$

Kelce is a HOFer. My emotion will cloud my opinion of him. I love the player and the man. Our default favorite player is Mahomes, but Kelce gives him a run for my favorite player.

If someone were to offer 1st rounders for the guy you have to think about it.

Kelce is never going to ask for the kind of money Jones is going to.

The issue to me with Jones is this is most likely his peak year, he's getting ready to be 30 where you'll likely being paying for what he use to be instead of what he's going to do.

Honestly if Jones demands are exorbitant then Veach might have to let him play out this year while hoping he doesn’t have another DPOY caliber year and possibly sign him for less. If not then see if there are any takers for a trade. I just think if KC plans to lose him they have something ready to replace his production. Perhaps Veach does already. It will just be hard to get what we hope we can for him considering his age and salary expectations.

I just say that comparing his situation to Hill’s isn’t remotely the same as KC can afford to let Hill walk because we have Mahomes. We have nothing or no one even remotely close on the defensive side of the ball.