Do I have some kind of insider info? Of course not.

But he's going to sign a long term deal. The writing is on the wall.

Many of you are going to be really disappointed when it happens.

A long-term deal would likely LESSEN OBJ's cap number.

Far from it, they were miles apart last season in negotiations, Veach will now be hit with even higher demands this year.

Yep. In the first two years especially. And by the time year 3-4 kick in, there will already be a handful of guys making more than him.

They're not going to let a 26-year old LT coming off a Super Bowl win walk.

Keep deluding yourself.

At some point the decision between Thuney and OBJ will have to be made. Thuney will have cap hits of 22 million for the rest of his contract(3yrs). Then if a long term deal for OBJ happens that will be more than 22 million per year. Probably closer to 25 because you know he is going to want more than anyone else on the OL. Almost 50 million in the LT and LG. Then Trey Smith will come up after that, then the next year after that Creed will come due. We can't keep all of them, and we can't keep kicking the can down the road with restructures. So the question comes down to me. Do I want OBJ over Thuney even considering his age? No. Do I want OBJ over Trey? No. Do I want OBJ over Creed? No. To me that points to OBJ being the 4th most important piece of that puzzle.

Thinking about all that just has me thinking it just better to move on now than tie ourselves down to another 29 million dollar *coughcough* contract

You do know that the cap goes up pretty significantly almost every year (except the COVID year) right?

Probably not, but Veach isn't exactly a conventional GM.

Indeed, the same 'not a chance we will let him walk' comments could have been made about Tyreek.

If the Chiefs sign a long-term deal with Orlando Brown, Jr: I'm OK with it.

If the Chiefs franchise tag him and let him play on that: I'm OK with it.

If the Chiefs tag and trade him: I'm OK with that (even if what they do is sign Andre Dillar in FA to play LT and draft a future OT a little lower than we'd expect).

They've earned my benefit of the doubt. I don't think KC will make a deal that cripples them in the future. I also am pretty confident if they trade him, it's because signing him would have meant not being able to keep another guy down the road, or putting KC in a box it didn't like.

What I suspect is he'll get an offer for a long-term like the one he got last year, maybe with a few more dollars and certainly with a little more guaranteed. No clue if he'll take that or go see if he can be overpaid elsewhere.

Exactly this. A trade would be fascinating, though.

Except they weren't made. At least not by me. This isn't the same as the Tyreek situation, firstly because we had already franchise tagged Brown.

Not even close to the same situation here.

Agree, other than Wylie he is the weakest player on the OL, which says a lot.

Look Veach doesnt seem like the kind of guy who appreciates being made a fool of. Signing Brown now to an inflated contract, when he played hardball and tagged him last offseason doesnt seem typical behaviour for him. These are the kind of ridiculous moves that were made by Dorsey and hurt us in the end.

Mr. Corleone never asks another favor once he's been refused the first time.