Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 17374570)

I never quite understood the Raven's mindset coming into the game. Like why where they so chippy towards the Chiefs? They are the one seed. We are in their house. Act like it. Instead they went all thug-like acting as if this Chiefs team is a house of cards and would crumble if you just got though with it.

I think it was a completely wrong approach.

Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven (Post 17375630)

As opposed to...every other year...where they are hard to beat and go to the AFCCG? When were they ever easy to beat? Just checking...:)

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17375491)

It's so obviously not just Andy's playcalling that led to it.

Because when Andy gets cautious, if Pat's not on the same page, he does that stuff where he holds the ball too long, won't come off guys, waits for a first read to open up and then gets himself it or commits a turnover.

Mahomes as at the back of his drop and the ball was out - immediately. If it wasn't, he started looking for a lane to run or in one case took a sack.

It was OBVIOUSLY a concerted effort to keep the clock running and protect the ball. From Reid, yes, but Mahomes as well. It was the PLAN after halftime.

It wasn't an accident. It wasn't a necessary evil. It was how they intended to win that game and they were dead-ass right.

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17375687)

Okay, I'll respond to this one; I know there's a couple others that responded to my post, but if I quote them all, this post will be too long.


I don't recall ever saying much about holds in this game; they happen and don't get flagged all the time, and since they made that modification to how they were going to call it it's gotten worse. They missed some holding calls. They didn't really affect the game, so whatever.

The first holding call vs. Smith was not a great call, but the 2nd one was just not holding. But again, that shit happens. didn't affect the outcome really.

The headbutt I get why they called it, just probably should've been a double foul and off-setting. Travis was yapping his ass off all game and helped instigate that shit. Now, I doubt Travis planned it that way (I believe he was just really fired up), but he didn't help the situation. It's a playoff game and I would've probably just flagged both players.

The Flowers thing I've already addressed twice. It was a legit flag.

I don't know which one was Connors/Likely. As it goes to DPI, the refs effed that up several times during the game, going both ways, iirc. I mentioned in my original post that at least twice flags should've been thrown against KC. And it doesn't matter if it was a bad decision to throw into triple coverage or if you think the ball was underthrown. That's not how the rule is written. The fact is that the ball was in the air and was going to come down pretty close to the BAL WR when a KC DB (number started with a 2) ran OVER the WR well before the ball was intercepted. If that situation was reversed, and that was a KC WR that got freight trained, you'd all be screaming "DPI!!! DPI!!!! DPI!!!!"

It's basically the same thing as when MVS got run over vs. GB(?) earlier in the season. That was DPI, period. If the defender runs the **** over the receiver before the ball gets there, it's DPI, period. Who was around the play, and whether you think the ball was underthrown/overthrown/you don't think the WR could catch it, or what color their jersey was, has absolutely nothing to do with it.

The Roquan thing. Yeah, he was too aggressive, no doubt. but it's a playoff game, and extra nonsense happens. That was a flag that seemed a little much for the situation. Flag him for encroachment or whatever, but it didn't need to be a 15-yarder, again imo.


I don't know what you're talking about with the kicker thing, sorry. Must've missed that, I guess.



Bottom line, I hate it when refs insert themselves into games. Too often it leads to events that seem to steer the game. It's to the point now that every time a great/exciting play happens, we can't even just be excited about it; first we have to wait to make sure there isn't a ****ing flag. And then we have to watch the replay to see if there should've been a goddamned flag.

And then there's the dipsticks that basically just wait and hope that there is a flag, to help their team gain an advantage, which is more utter BS, imo. Flags suck. And I really wish there were a lot less of them overall.

I'll ALWAYS be in favor of less flags, and in favor of letting the teams/players decide who wins over the refs. That's just my position on it. Sorry, not sorry.

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17375740)

You are reeruned...

Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia (Post 17375689)

Brandon Perna is having another meltdown. Second year in a row that he insists that Mahomes is leaving KC in two years.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17375781)

Who the **** is Brandon Perna?

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 17375777)

Don't make the big mistake, just punt, the D has it.-Chiefs in the second half.

Thing is the Chiefs were right but we've seen it go terribly wrong all too often. It gives your opponent momentum and the door can get blown open quickly. (Thankfully Sneed and Co slammed it shut.)

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17375815)

You are not allowed to use critical thinking or disagree with something the Chiefs did since they won. I thought you knew that around here.

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17375815)

You are not allowed to use critical thinking or disagree with something the Chiefs did since they won. I thought you knew that around here.

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17375783)

Travis absolutely instigated on purpose, and Van Noy took the obvious bait. He was laughing his ass off after the flag got thrown. Pretty obvious the Ravens came into the game hoping to keep a bully mentality and it blew up spectacularly in their faces when the Chiefs smashed them right back and sent them reeling.

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17375829)

You're the same dumbass that believes Mahomes should be throwing 40-50 passes per game and Richie James was going to be our breakout WR. For someone who obsesses over analytics you sure seem to get a lot of things wrong.