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htismaqe 01-28-2025 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 17942334)
Anyone who says Allen “clearly” got the first down on that 4th and 1 is flat out lying.

There was no angle showing he got it. It was a simple “call on the field stands” type of play.

Imagine if we were driving down the field to extend the lead, ran that same play with Mahomes on 4th and 1 and were in the same situation.

People would be screaming bloody murder that there wasn’t enough evidence to overturn and it should be Bills’ ball.

The whole refs thing is completely disingenuous.

I watched a bit of the All-22. From that view, there was no way to say he got it.

kcfan75 01-28-2025 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 17942334)
Anyone who says Allen “clearly” got the first down on that 4th and 1 is flat out lying.

There was no angle showing he got it. It was a simple “call on the field stands” type of play.

Imagine if we were driving down the field to extend the lead, ran that same play with Mahomes on 4th and 1 and were in the same situation.

People would be screaming bloody murder that there wasn’t enough evidence to overturn and it should be Bills’ ball.

The whole refs thing is completely disingenuous.

Honestly if you have seven road graders in front of you and you're a 250lb QB and can't "clearly" pick up a yard, you really didn't deserve it.

Maybe look into a play that will get you three to six yards there and not end in a pack of twelve guys huddled at the LOS like the Chiefs would do.

Boxer_Chief 01-28-2025 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kcfan75 (Post 17942300)
Day 2 and still whining like 11-year-old girls. Maybe they can request some more rule changes

https://www.twobillsdrive.com/commun...ter-worse-why/

Those morons really think they are gonna get Maxx Crosby lololol I saw it in multiple threads. Yeah the raiders are gonna trade a young pass rusher with a new coach all about defense.

ChiTown 01-28-2025 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17942342)
I watched a bit of the All-22. From that view, there was no way to say he got it.

The mistake was 2-fold:

#1
The Chiefs knew what was coming and they were ready for it.

#2
The minute Allen ran into the line and turned his back with the ball behind the LOS, it gave the ref enough of a view to call it "no good", even if he may have "inched" his way past the LOS with the ball (which you can't legitimately see from ANY angle).

Horrible play call, and even worse execution. F em.

htismaqe 01-28-2025 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kcfan75 (Post 17942348)
Honestly if you have seven road graders in front of you and you're a 250lb QB and can't "clearly" pick up a yard, you really didn't deserve it.

Maybe look into a play that will get you three to six yards there and not end in a pack of twelve guys huddled at the LOS like the Chiefs would do.

Right?

I was waiting for them to run a misdirection pass or option and they never did. It was doubly weird when the Chiefs scored twice doing that very thing.

trndobrd 01-28-2025 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17942356)
Right?

I was waiting for them to run a misdirection pass or option and they never did. It was doubly weird when the Chiefs scored twice doing that very thing.

Reminded of Bullwinkle pulling a rabbit out of his hat.
“This time for sure!”

Raiderhater 01-28-2025 12:45 PM

I haven’t seen it since the broadcast because for some reason no one wants to show it (pretty telling in and of itself), but I swear that the overhead view of that 4th down play clearly showed the ball never got to the line.

comochiefsfan 01-28-2025 12:58 PM

Anyone who says they’re boycotting the Super Bowl is lying.

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Love us or hate us, you’re going to watch.

htismaqe 01-28-2025 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhater (Post 17942395)
I haven’t seen it since the broadcast because for some reason no one wants to show it (pretty telling in and of itself), but I swear that the overhead view of that 4th down play clearly showed the ball never got to the line.

I'm not sure that it's completely clear even from that angle but you never see the actual ball break the line to gain.

Kiimo 01-28-2025 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 17942317)
My favorite is Portnoy of Barstool sports wrote his disgust in a heck of rant. Boycotting the SB.
Seems he lost 1 million betting on Bills.



that's a shame




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Raiderhater 01-28-2025 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17942442)
I'm not sure that it's completely clear even from that angle but you never see the actual ball break the line to gain.

I might be misremembering what I saw, but I remember feeling quite confident after they finally showed the view that I had been asking the tv for. And then no one wants to show it again which at one time confirms what I remember seeing from a “conspiracy” perspective and also allows for faded memory syndrome where maybe I’m not remembering clearly. I guess I just need to see it again.

Clay! Where you at buddy? I need that clip.

htismaqe 01-28-2025 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhater (Post 17942457)
I might be misremembering what I saw, but I remember feeling quite confident after they finally showed the view that I had been asking the tv for. And then no one wants to show it again which at one time confirms what I remember seeing from a “conspiracy” perspective and also allows for faded memory syndrome where maybe I’m not remembering clearly. I guess I just need to see it again.

Clay! Where you at buddy? I need that clip.

I will watch the All 22 again today and see what it looks like.

Raiderhater 01-28-2025 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17942460)
I will watch the All 22 again today and see what it looks like.

:thumb: If nothing else, I feel confident in saying that even if not a %100 definitive, it is a more definitive view than either of the two side shots that everyone keeps using.

Otter 01-28-2025 01:46 PM

Gotta admit this is a lot like when Pearl Jam made it BIG and every swinging dick was blaring it from their car stereo. Don't get me wrong, the music was still good but the homogony of the circle of loyal fans gets dilluted.

I was talking to a guy wearing a Mahomes jersey that didn't know who Derrick Thomas or Lin Elliot was and it kinda pissed me off.

wazu 01-28-2025 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 17942463)
Gotta admit this is a lot like when Pearl Jam made it BIG and every swinging dick was blaring it from their car stereo. Don't get me wrong, the music was still good but the homogony of the circle of loyal fans gets dilluted.

I was talking to a guy wearing a Mahomes jersey that didn't know who Derrick Thomas or Lin Elliot was and it kinda pissed me off.

How old was he? Those guys both died like 30 years ago. And why would it piss you off? I welcome all on the bandwagon. We need soldiers to be out there fighting against a tidal wave of haters.


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