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AusChief 02-11-2025 04:19 AM

Trade this years 1st and next years to the Giants for Andrew Thomas

Yep big price but he’s locked in on a reasonable deal (for the player he is) for 5-6 years.

The draft and FA ain’t helping this year.

milkshock 02-11-2025 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17963479)
His 'failure' is also not yet a failure.

If he was ready day one, he'd have gone top ten.


If you are proposing that we risk him as a starter on day one next season then that cannot happen.


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Chris Meck 02-11-2025 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AusChief (Post 17963921)
Trade this years 1st and next years to the Giants for Andrew Thomas

Yep big price but he’s locked in on a reasonable deal (for the player he is) for 5-6 years.

The draft and FA ain’t helping this year.

Why would they do that?

Chris Meck 02-11-2025 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by milkshock (Post 17963922)
If you are proposing that we risk him as a starter on day one next season then that cannot happen.


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No, I'm not.

I'm not PROPOSING anything, necessarily. I'm pushing back on unrealistic narratives.

duncan_idaho 02-11-2025 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by AusChief (Post 17963921)
Trade this years 1st and next years to the Giants for Andrew Thomas

Yep big price but he’s locked in on a reasonable deal (for the player he is) for 5-6 years.

The draft and FA ain’t helping this year.


Sure, if they’d take that.

They wouldn’t.

SHOWTIME 02-11-2025 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by AusChief (Post 17963921)
Trade this years 1st and next years to the Giants for Andrew Thomas

Yep big price but he’s locked in on a reasonable deal (for the player he is) for 5-6 years.

The draft and FA ain’t helping this year.

The Giants have had o-line issues for years. They are not about to trade their best player on offense other than Nabers, especially since they are about to draft a QB.

TEX 02-11-2025 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17963920)
JJ Watt sums it up...we got away with it in the past against (1) teams with great edge rushers and no interior pressure and (2) teams with great interior rushers and no edge pressure. Eagles had great rushers across their d-line.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Eagles didn’t blitz Chiefs one time last night. Similar to Bucs vs. KC in the 2021 Super Bowl.<br><br>But it’s not as simple as “blitz vs. no-blitz”.<br><br>To win with just a 4-man rush, you have to have monsters on the edge and beasts in the middle.<br><br>Great edge rushers can be neutralized…</p>&mdash; JJ Watt (@JJWatt) <a href="https://twitter.com/JJWatt/status/1889065775732027472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Watt nailed it. Thuney got abused playing out of position and Calliendo had no chance. Left side collapsed almost instantly all game long. Right side was a little better, but not much. It was just a perfect storm to go up against an OL that had been in flux all season. That's why, for this game, I would have given serious thought of putting Thuney back at LG and at least have a strength on strength situation somewhere, with our interior 3.

BigRedChief 02-11-2025 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17963331)
Change for the sake of change isn't always good. They spent a 2nd round pick on Kingsley. Do it again. Take two.

But there's absolutely no reason for them to trade up if they're not trading up for something that is surely better. You're active in the draft forums. You know how often those guys in the 20's pan out. Short of a monumental trade, we are giving away multiple picks for another Kingsley. That would be overeactionary and stupid.

Veach knows all that. No way he does something stupid like that.

duncan_idaho 02-11-2025 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17964054)
The Giants have had o-line issues for years. They are not about to trade their best player on offense other than Nabers, especially since they are about to draft a QB.


Yeah, their selling points right now are that they have the foundations on offense. Franchise LT, franchise WR, good young RB. Just need the QB to make it work and ascend quickly.

I’ve looked around rosters. I don’t think there’s a young LT to be had, at least not one that you feel like settles the position for years, like people want.

If you can’t sign one of Cam Robinson, Stanley, or Alaric Jackson, I think you can take a numbers game approach as the best bet.

Sign a floor vet like Humphries. Sign a second-chance guy like Jedrick Willis. Draft another guy with traits.

Throw them in the pot with guys you have on hand and see what comes out.

O.city 02-11-2025 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17964065)
Yeah, their selling points right now are that they have the foundations on offense. Franchise LT, franchise WR, good young RB. Just need the QB to make it work and ascend quickly.

I’ve looked around rosters. I don’t think there’s a young LT to be had, at least not one that you feel like settles the position for years, like people want.

If you can’t sign one of Cam Robinson, Stanley, or Alaric Jackson, I think you can take a numbers game approach as the best bet.

Sign a floor vet like Humphries. Sign a second-chance guy like Jedrick Willis. Draft another guy with traits.

Throw them in the pot with guys you have on hand and see what comes out.

Any way the Chargers are gonna trade Slater? Surely not right?

duncan_idaho 02-11-2025 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17964077)
Any way the Chargers are gonna trade Slater? Surely not right?


I mean, you are joking, right?

O.city 02-11-2025 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17964080)
I mean, you are joking, right?

Sadly...yes

SHOWTIME 02-11-2025 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17964077)
Any way the Chargers are gonna trade Slater? Surely not right?

sure, for 4 first rounders to a team in their division...

htismaqe 02-11-2025 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 17963348)
Why is it just another Suamataia? Who knows what their grades are but it’s entirely possible they have a higher grade on one of these guys than they did this year on Kingsley.

It's not about grades. It's about hit rates. Guys taken after pick 15 just don't hit with any regularity at all. If you're not taking an Alt, you're taking a lottery ticket. Would you pay $15 for $5 scratcher? That's dumb.

O.city 02-11-2025 08:51 AM

People need to be realistic about what you need at LT to be "successful".

If it's a "throw a guy out there on an island and have him just kick ass and be elite" well......good luck.


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