Better team doesn't always win, we almost beat San Diego twice last year for example. On paper and on the field we are probably worse than all 4 of the NFC East teams but that doesn't mean we won't come out of those 4 games with zero wins. Not saying I would bet on us in any of those games but I wouldn't count any game an automatic loss. We'll win some games we shouldn't this year.

just to clarify i know the opening schedule is a gauntlet. an IF we somehow make it 3-4 or 4-3 which is doubtful, i think we could be dangerous. confidence is a weapon.

He's getting old and he had a huge carry year, it's really not surprising.

I give them a chance against the Redskins, I expect them to get fully raped by the Giants and Eagles though.

I agree...our schedule is the bitch this season. We won't win very many games this season, but it ought to make us a stronger, meaner team for it.

I can't wait for GoChiefs to explain to us all how LJ saved the day, and Mike Brown doesn't SUCK BALLS.:rolleyes:

Was pollard in after the first series? I know Brown replaced him early, but did he ever go back out?

EDIT:

SUCK BALLS.

6-10 and 3 of those don't come till December. We have a rough schedule.

well....did u think even w cassel that the dolphins wouldve demolished the pats like they did? this is my optimistic prediction.i see the chiefs beating washington and MAYBE dallas.oakland both, san diego and denver 1 apiece, cleveland and cinci. so 8-8. id call that a successful season

Yea, The QB and WR have to have the timing of that down after working together for awhile imo to make that work at a decent success rate. It was high risk for success agreed.

I have to see how they play the run before I predict some of those, if we play the run poor or have the NT problems guys like Marion Barber will shred us.

I guess the folks in KC didn't have to suffer through these Vike homer announcers? They are slobbering all over Favre.

the chiefs defense looked great. Favre belonged here
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No wonder it came down to the last play. The Vikes' balls are getting gargled non stop.

agreed. they looked ok today

Yep, Usually took Parcells 3 years to turn a team around when he was coaching to make the playoffs.

He did not just call bullshit on our Head Coach did he?

Cassel looked like Huard on that sack.

Bennie Sapp is still the blitz corner.

The 1st quarter confirmed what I thought last week:

Mike Goff is ****ing terrible.

what can brown do for you?

Just now watching the replay, but he can't be any worse.

for how big he is be better do somethin

You havent watched enough yet... it will come.

KCFX just interviewed Mays. They're trying to get him to acknowledge that he's emerging, that he's doing well.

Tried to do it twice. His answer both times?

"We didn't win".

Welcome to Kansas City kid, you're alright by me. Go take that job.

thomas is done.

Duane Bowe vs. Bennie Sapp. Yeah I like that match up.

i like dwayne bowe vs sapp even better

Cassel: **** you haters

Peterson pwns Vrable.

Brown: I ****ing S-U-C-K. With an LJ SUCK-Chaser.:evil::evil::evil:

Mike Brown played solid what you talking about?

Just now watching the replay, like you, and te right side is still, far and away, the worst part of this team.

Goff is better than Adrain Jones, but better than bad does not equal good.

Richardson is simply not a RT.

The defense played pretty good aginst Adrian Peterson. Is it a coisidence that Bernard Pollard wasn't in and the chiefs played good aginst the run?

Your Savior was OUT OF POSITION, TAKING BAD ANGLES, AND STINKING UP THE JOINT!

Hush! Hush you!

I can honestly say that I'm not sure Goff is better than Jones.

Niswanger looks like he's regressed, not improved.

The RT position is a cluster****.

Christ, even Brian Waters and Branden Albert looked shaky tonight.

It was 1 pre-season game. If you want Richardson to be the RT you're going to have to let him play atleast til week 4 or 5 to see what he is. Did you honestly not see this coming? The Vikes defense is awesome.

The Albert one baffled me he got Brian Robison not Jared Allen...I thought the OL would atleast look competent with 2 of Minnesota's best players not going.

2 of their starting 4...2 of the big 3, didn't suit up, that's where the issue comes.

Blitz didn't get there and the WR beat the LB.

What part of Jared Allen and Pat Williams not playing do you not understand?

I'm not worried about Richardson.

The fact that someone thought Mike Goff could still be effective and nothing was done to improve the center/RT positions is my main concern.

The "awesome" defense excuse means jack shit, considering we play 6 of the top 8 defenses from last year.

Get used to this.

Niswanger is still struggling with technique, but it's more about thinking about proper technique rather than bad technique.

And as bad as Goff looks, yes, he is still better than Jones.

As for Albert and Waters, I kind of expected this kind of struggle from them with Haley's conditioning.

They've lost the weight, but now they have to adjust to the weight loss.

Where did I say I expect the Chiefs offense to be awesome at? I said somewhere that it seems as though Pioli didn't do enough to upgrade the o-line. Atleast we have a mobile QB whos accurate this year and won't have to play a gimmick offense.

If that line is like that all year Cassel is either going to get injured or become so uncomfortable in the pocket it takes him years to overcome it.

Also if you want to run the ball it'd be nice to have a good fullback. Mike Cox isn't a good fullback.

If you're going to run the ball, it also helps when your RB isn't a complete ****ing pussy.

Isn't the weight loss supposed to make them stronger and more efficient? :shrug:

I was under the impression the weight loss was designed to remove unnecessary fat and make them leaner and stronger. Maybe this isn't such a good idea for the linemen, but so much better for all the other positions.

It probably won't be that bad all season. It's only the 2nd pre-season game and theres new guys in the lineup. Lets wait and see before we claim this is the worse o-line ever.

Not this shit again. So you're going to bash LJ and praise Jackie Battle? The same guy who couldn't get a yard when the game was on the line vs third string players.

The problem is some of the early games on the schedule are brutal...we got this guy no Oline help and now he's facing teams that terrorize QB's.

There isn't a starting RB on this roster.

That's something we can agree on.

Or doesn't require a combine-plowed sized hole to get through.

That Larry Johnson contract looks awesome now!

He should have used his speed to get outside. There wasn't much he could do when four linemen beat our OL and met him in the middle.

Heres where I pull the trust in Pioli card. I don't think the guy is stupid enough to spend all that money on a QB and not provide a servicable o-line. I hope I am right but the first 2 games say otherwise.

And that doesn't happen to LJ? Thankfully the Chiefs have Cassel because that o-line played like garbage and Cassel made some plays. Every Chiefs fan should applaud Cassel's effort.

I believe he was referring to your "awesome" defense reference even though 2 of the top 4 defensive players were not starting for Minn.

I really feel bad for Matt Cassel, this guy has to face the Giants with this line, DeMarcus Ware with this line..the Ravens, Steelers, Albert Haynesworth lining up over Mike Goff...

I'm not praising Battle, nor LJ. I'm just saying Battle didn't have a chance in hell when that defensive line blew up the middle.

Also for your people who bitched about trading Gonzalez, Haley answered your question how they'll make up for him.

Honestly, it looks the same to me now as it did when he signed it.

Hated it then. Hate it now.

The thing is, he still hasn't really learned all the nuances of the position, and now he's lighter, and proper footwork and technique become more important.

I don't care about that trade, I do however care that it looks like Matt Cassel is going to get hit/sacked more than any other QB in the league.

we are under the cap.... it hasnt hurt us one bit. The way it pays out.... under the current CBA.... he can be cut next june and its paid less than half what he signed for.

I thought the same thing watching the game tonight I said " the line better not play like this vs Baltimore." It's only the 2nd pre-season game though lets wait and see. I don't believe the line will be bad the whole year. Atleast Haley/Pioli are playing guys who actually have played football the past few years compared to Adrian Jones, Terry, Turley, ect.

You should love that trade. A 2nd round pick next year for a cry baby tight end. Perfect example last year Gonzalez bitched about the record even though the team won. Tonight Mays played great and wouldn't acknolwedge it because the team lost. This is going to be a much better team.

Haley and co. will game plan around the line.

Get ready for vanilla in bunches, RRP (underneath). All in an effort to keep Cassel alive.

That's great but they still need talent.

Right now any teams that can rush the passer are going to really **** with the Chiefs.

Oh, the irony if this actually happens.

Don't be stupid. The team is better with Tony.

I have to agree with Mecca.

I feel better about bringing in Cassel because he looks like he can make plays. However, the fact that he is constantly running for his life all the time scares the shit out of me.

And on defense, we'll be ok as long as teams don't run up the middle or expose our LBs in coverage.

The same thing happend to Cassel last year. As Deeznutz said Haley will gameplan around the o-line. The o-line will only improve from these past few games.

LMAO

Not really.

This board will meltdown.

But based on what I saw tonight, with these same guys, I'm having a hard time envisioning other possibilities.

If this were a reg. season game, I would have been shocked if Cassel were able to play the entire game.

This is why I kind of give a baffled look when people say 8 wins or something like that.

I have a really really bad image of how the Chiefs will handle Justin Tuck coming off the right side...

It was refreshing seeing screen passes and a reverse. Something Herm never did.