Great read. Thanks, 'nilla.

marcus smart fighting with fans..

And Smart shoves a fan. LMAO

Jfc. Ford has no control over that team.

Smart willed his way to pushing that fan.

Somewhere prison flopper weeps.

****ing SOB... I was posting that Marcus Smart stuff in the game day thread. I'm and idiot.

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Wonder what that guy said to make Smart snap. Looked like he apologized out of fear right before Marcus pushed him.

In any case, OSU is a shell of what they were at the start of the season. Smart played a fantastic game today and they still couldn't get it done. With that 6 man rotation they're running, they'll be lucky to make the tournament at the rate they're going.

Smart being a bitch again.

Anyone want to tell me they don't think Smart is a bitch now?

Smart definitely isn't a bitch. Look up his life story.

"@Big12Refs: We think Smart was just shocked that a fan took the contact and didn't flop."

Just stop.

Smart is such a ****ing loose cannon.

No, considering all he's dealt with in his life, the last word I'd use to describe Marcus Smart would be bitch. Dude's going to be fulfilling his lifelong dream and making millions of dollars in the NBA next year.

@LandenLucas33: The fan Marcus Smart pushed should have flopped" 😂😂😂

LMAO

Have to think he'll be suspended at least a few for this (regardless of what that fan said to him). Texas and OU are going to catch a break this week.

Going after a 50+ yr old fan? The guy acts like a ****ing child. He's a sore loser and a coward. I don't give a shit about what the guy's NBA dreams are to be quite honest. So he's going to make millions playing a game. Big deal. He's still a shithead.

Ford has no control ovet that team let alone a set of ballz. Big 12 will have to step in and discipline smart.

OSU is imploding, (has imploded).

Smart should be suspended for at least 3 games, maybe more. I can't remember an incident like this happening in college basketball before.

Travis Ford doing his post game press conference... saying he didn't see Smart push the fan, needs to see the video to see what happened. He looks somewhat shaken up.

Is he getting kicked off the team?

video yet?

Nah, he just hates losing quite a bit. It's not the worst thing in the world for a high level athlete to be.

Also apparently hates being called whatever the guy called him.


Whether he's a shithead or not (neither of us will ever know him personally), I think it's safe to say he's definitely not a bitch considering where he's come from and where he's going.

Maybe he called him a flopper?

And regardless of what the old guy said, Smart shouldn't have pushed him.

Stop guzzling Smart jizz.

We don't know that the fan called him anything.

No, but it's probably a pretty safe assumption to make.

Same fan.

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Classy.

Wondering what the fan said. Something terrible/racist I can understand. Just usual fan heckling then Smart then he was way out of line. True to form ESPN is all over this.

ahhhh, the plot thickens

Sure, if you're going to be a professional athlete, you have to have more self control than that.

But he's dealt with a lot of shit before during these games from fans and never reacted like that. The fact that he did this time really does make me wonder what was said.

Maybe.

It's still no excuse. Think about the terrible stuff that the antlers have said over the years to KU players and none of them ever did anything like that. The TT fan couldn't have said any worse.

Smart Not
 

What a huge fail move by Smart....
Just ****ed your team and teammates for the next few games....
What a ****ing idiot...

Some people have different breaking points based on past experience. Can't really judge something like this fully without knowing what was said.

He's obviously going to be suspended regardless, though.

LMAO it doesn't matter what the fan said. You don't shove him.

Doesn't matter what the fan said. You don do that as a player.

Just like the malice in the palace.

#1 fan

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You can, because with stuff like this, past experiences don't matter. There are certain things you just don't do.

oh yeah. This asshole definitely said something. I'm with Smart on this one.

Dolt

Funny, because Artest was always one of my favs too. Loved the effort he gave on the floor.

Of course you are. You should be banned as long as your boytoy is suspended.

What's that saying about not judging a person without walking a mile in their shoes?

That it still doesn't matter. Are we saying a five star blue collar athlete who's not been told he can't so things probably since he was in 8th grade has had such a rough life that this is ok?

It doesn't matter what the fan said. You don't go after a fan. No matter what.

Violence is never OK. It's just more understandable in some circumstances.

This doesn't make you sound psycho at all.

You don't do what Smart did. I'm sure the fan said something really stupid... but you don't attack fans. It doesn't matter what happens. You can't do that.

Marcus not-so Smart

Marcus.

Shaka.

Why are all the stupid douchebags named Smart in college basketball?

Seek help

I'm a psycho for not being upset that Marcus Smart shoved a guy that likely called him a ****er? Piss off.

Again in this situation, it's not. Yeah, the guy obviously said something terrible and is probably a huge asshole.

But a player putting his hands on a fan for any reason (court storming notwithstanding) is bad on the player no matter his past.

LMAO

You're ****ed up.

Who said it wasn't? I'm just not going to start moralizing about what an awful person Smart must be because he shoved some asshole.

I don't think you're a psycho, that was sarcasm. It sounded like something a serial killer in a movie would say. But yeah, if SNR comes after me with a baseball bat threatening to kill me... yeah then maybe violence is okay. Some stupid backwoods basketball fan running his mouth at you, I'm not sure violence is okay.

His track record this season when things aren't going his way aren't exactly showing him in a positive light.

Other players are frustrated. Other players hear fans talk. They don't go into the stands and put their hands on them.

He's a great player that's for sure. But he's putting together a portfolio that's starting to show he's not as mature as once thought and that his emotions control him.

Didn't say it was OK. You can't just go around shoving opposing fans for saying derogatory shit or you'll never be able to get through a few minutes without getting an ejection. But if this asshole says what we all think he said, he probably had that shove coming.

The other problem that won't be talked about tomorrow... Marcus Smart has decided he's bigger than the team. It's a shame.

I'm a peace-loving individual, and I'll kill you if you say otherwise.

He's ultra competitive in a way that even makes him stand out from all of his peers (who are also presumably very competitive themselves to even reach NCAA D1). It's not all that surprising he takes losing terribly. The great ones always do.

Do you think this Marcus Smart situation is substantially different than what Ron Artest did 10 or so years ago?

Holy ****, that was 10 years ago?

The punches (and there were a ton) make it different. Also the fact that it descended into absolute madness after that.

big 12 investigating this matter now

What's that saying about innocent until proven guilty? I mean, as long as we're throwing around cliches, we might as well add that one to the mix.

1) We don't know that this guy is an asshole. 2) We don't know what was said.

What's with all the assumptions? Should we also assume that the chair said something derogatory to Smart that made him kick it two weeks ago?

Pretty close

On November 19, 2004, Artest was at the center of an altercation among players and fans during a game in Auburn Hills, Michigan, between Artest's Pacers and the home team Detroit Pistons. The brawl involved Artest, Pistons center Ben Wallace, Artest's teammates Jermaine O'Neal and Stephen Jackson, several other players, and spectators including Pistons fan John Green[10] and Pistons fan A. J. Shackleford.[11]
The fight resulted in the game being stopped with less than a minute remaining. Jermaine O'Neal, Jackson and Wallace were suspended indefinitely the day after the game. A day later, the NBA suspended Artest for the rest of the regular season, plus any playoff games. Artest missed 86 games, the longest suspension for an on-court incident in NBA history.[12]

I think it is absolutely substantially different.

It's still wholly inexcusable, no matter the motivation.

**** my life.

I thinks it's a cop out to use te whole ultra competitive talk. There's a difference in taking losing terribly and losing your shit like that.

I'm not all about losing gracefully, I don't mind seeing that fire, but you've gotta have some discretion

ROFL dumbass

What did the chair say to marcus a few weeks ago?

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Try to make out what Smart mouths as he's getting pulled away from his teammates (8-9 seconds).

How is it a cop out? It's what he is. A terrible loser. And that isn't a bad thing to be as a high level athlete (unless, of course, this happens).

Doug Gottlieb ‏@GottliebShow 1m
Jeff Orr to a #TexasTech friend of mine via text "I kinda let my mouth say something I shouldn't have,I feel bad" #MarcusSmart


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Hmm, yeah, wonder what that could have been.

I don't doubt that one bit. I'm sure whatever the guy said was probably terrible. He's not the good guy, there may not be a good guy.

Do remember Gottlieb played for Oklahoma State. He is not going to have an unbiased view of this.

It's a cop out because it takes issue away from the whole situation and makes it less negative. People can say"he's just competitive" instead of "he's not very mature" and it makes te situation less fragile.


As much as some don't necessarily want to believe it, as evidenced by his actions of late, Smart isn't showing to be a mature player when things don't go his way. That's not necessarily a bad thing when it makes players elevate their game to higher levels, but when it causes reactions and results like we are seeing from him, it is.

@GottliebShow: "wasn't vulgar or the N Word" another text from Orr - #MarcusSmart

I knew he didn't say anything like that. He would've acted differently.