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Andy Reid is a terrible head football coach
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- Defense decent early. Chiefs score 2 quick TDs - Defense can't get off the field (fall into Prevent defense). Offense goes into a shell & has totally ineffective 2nd quarter. Other team catches up - Chiefs offense & defense dominate into a commanding lead - Chiefs find a way to squander the lead. Offense goes into "protect the lead" mode, defense falls back to prevent again And every step of the way is vintage Reid. The good news is we keep winning. The bad news is we keep winning. How many times do we have to see this brutal pattern? If Andy Reid continues to stubbornly refuse to put away games, we're going to piss away a really important game. Mahomes can win in shootouts but why the **** even force pressure drives when we don't need to? Maddening. |
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You're basically faulting the Chiefs for not blowing Pittsburgh out. They have a HOF QB, they were going to get back into the game against our complete shit secondary.
We had this game won when it was 42-30, then Conley fumbled. Reid has nothing to do with that. And they were ahead 31-12 in LA, that game was over, who cares about garbage time. "Vintage Reid" is that shit that happened in Indianapolis or against the Titans, not the last two weeks. |
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And that's who he has ALWAYS been. And he's STILL that. And no one can answer the question about why they expect that he'll ever be any different from what he has always been. They just say I'm an idiot...but can't tell me why. One guy told me to name a current NFL head coach with a better winning percentage not named Belichick. I named 3 guys named Mike off the top of my head : Zimmer, Tomlin, and McCarty. 2 of 'em have Super Bowls. FFS |
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And he SUCKS. He's soft, his teams are always soft and pudgy. Weak up the middle, on offense AND defense. I don't know if we can get anything better...but I want Super Bowls. Andy is a retread who has never won shit without Jim Johnson, and even then, Reid went full Reidtard in the Super Bowl with his patented 7-minute offense when down by 14 that we saw in playoff losses in NE, and at home against Pit and TEN. And that's a Reid trademark, going back to Philly...and he still does the same shit. Mahomes overcame the refs, the Steelers AND HIS OWN COACH today. |
Our run defense didn't look soft today, bud.
Why don't you roll back the tape of our last possession? Soft? Power O right up their ass. Ballgame. You're just hating on one of the greatest NFL coaches ever. Did you even watch the game today? Tomlin isn't a better coach than Reid. He had NO answer for our offense. |
Words can't express how terrible the decision was to keep Sutton. Even if it's because Andy has sacrificed the D to build an O that'll win games 70-68, keeping Sutton was a real kick in the teeth to Chiefs fans. And to not explain why (not that they have to), doesn't do anything to help fans stay positive. It's like they doubled-down on stupid, and kicking fans in the teeth.
Maybe they thought Berry would play... IDK. |
Just believe.
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And I never said Tomlin was better; I was asked who had a better win percentage than Reid among active coaches, and Tomlin is one of 3 guys named Mike amongst active coaches who DO have a better win percentage. Words have meanings, Clay. And I ain't hating on Reid for anything that every Philly fan hasn't hated him for already. |
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It was like, as SOON as they threw the phantom flag to take the 27-0 away, take points off the board, Reid used that as his cue to take his foot off the throttle and let Pitt catch up a bit. Anyone else notice that? He did the same shit in the Denver game that is referenced in the OP of this thread. Same. ****ing. Shit. |
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It's too late though, once Clark chose Andy over Dorsey it was done. Reid got the power he desired and signed his contract extension. He will be here until he decides to leave. It doesn't matter how many times Reid gets us to the playoffs only to shit on our deck. |
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We were in 5 wide practically the whole game. For ****'s sake he went for a 99-yard TD pass. One one of the possessions where Reid "failed" he drew up a bomb to Tyreek, who was open, and Morse got his shit pushed in a half second too early. God forbid the other team win a quarter. Some of you have very unrealistic expectations given our talent level on defense vs a HOF QB. We're 2-0 in two road games with a QB who had never started a real game before. Andy Reid is a ****ing genius and a top 5 NFL coach. |
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Weird times call for weird analogies. |
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Hopefully Cesar Mahomes whispers into our dog’s ear. |
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I LOVE CAESAR MAHOMES!!! |
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Zimmer Sean Payton Sean McVey Are obvious upgrades. ****, I'd take Doug Pedersen over Reid. John Harbaugh...****ing Doug Marrone had Jacksonville in the AFC Championship Game. I guess Mike McCarty, but he should have MORE Super Bowls with what he's had to work with... Ron Rivera? |
Mike Zimmer? LMAO LMAO LMAO
Ron Rivera? The dude has a generational talent at QB and regularly misses the postseason. GMAFB You are delusional. |
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And Mike Zimmer only needs to lose one Super Bowl and 3 more conference championship games to make it to Reid level... Hey, I hope he proves me wrong. I want a Super Bowl THIS ****ING YEAR. THE FUTURE IS NOW. If Reid is so great, he'll get it done, now won't he? I'm a hold you to it, Clay. Reid wins the SB as HC of the Chiefs. |
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Other than that, he's been good, he's been bad and been in between. I'll call him a GENIUS when we win a Super Bowl. |
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Mr. rabblerouser.
I am disappoint. FAX |
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I don't want to disappointed you. How's this : Mahomes has brought new energy, things are different, it's a different era now... My true disdain of Andy Reid stems from ReidSmith era failure. The breath of fresh air that is PMII has washed mucho stinko out of Coach Reid...and Clay says he can take us to the Super Bowl. So I will agree to not to ride Reid''s case as long as FAX will still do the Official Game Day threads and be FAXlike. Deal? |
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Mahomes has changed the game, already...and this is just week 2. |
Here's the thing, Mr. rabblerouser.
When Wally showed up, the Chiefs were the hottest mess in aisle 4, right? They needed to be stabilized. AS11 provided that. They were always looking for a franchise QB to develop, but they never found the right kid when the draft made it possible. Wally just did you the greatest favor any NFL coach can ever do. He was patient. He righted the ship. He sat your guy for a full year so he could learn properly. He even made sure that AS11 would train him up, too. Then he unleashed your QB on the league all set and ready to go. Wally did that. Not the man in the moon or Mr. BlackOp's poor mom ... Wally. A lot of Chiefs fans have bought into a ton of the Philly bitching like it was "gospel". But the truth is Philly fans bitch about everything. Every day. Without ceasing. There's no end to it. So a lot of what Chiefs fans think about Wally is seen through that "Philly Bitch Lens". Most of it is either untrue on its face or highly exaggerated. I mean, Wally turned that franchise into a consistent, big-time winner in a tough damn division and they still wanted his head ... what does that tell you? All I suggest is that you temper your enthusiasm with a little perspective. FAX |
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That's why it sucks that I have to put you on ignore. Now go suck an AIDS-infected antifreeze popcicle, you non-reading, single sentence quoting asshole. |
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Newsflash, mother****er. Haley had weak ass ****ing teams in KC, too. Even in 2010. Yelling at the refs/players doesn't mean shit gets done. It just means people think you're an asshole. Sometimes that's a good thing, but it doesn't make you a better head coach at all, particularly when it comes to QBs. Golf coach can go **** himself. I would have wanted him nowhere ****ing CLOSE to my new franchise QB. |
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You have to be pretty ****ing stupid to still believe this. Reid is a top 5 coach in the NFL right now and if he were fired teams would line up to hire him, just like the last time he was fired.
He has his flaws, all coaches do, even hoodie who benched his best CB in the SB last year FFS. |
This thread is a ****ing embarrassment. I can't believe the reerun OP keeps bumping it. If I started this thread, I'd want it dead and buried. Of course I'm not a ****ing imbecile, so there's no way I ever would've started a thread this moronic.
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Reid will always have this persona to basically all NFL fans that he will lose in the playoffs no matter how good the team is, so until the Chiefs win a Superbowl he will always be thought of as in a lot of ways similar to Schottenheimer.
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McCarthy has had a HOF QB his entire run there and he has 1 SB, he'd have been fired years ago if that one dude wasn't saving his ass every year. Matter of fact they could literally run this line under McCarty "Rodgers: I've been carrying this mother****er for 10 years, his whole family should thank me for his job" and could anyone disagree? Mike Tomlin has 2 SB appearances and 1 win...his 1 win was basically with a team built entirely by Bill Cowher. It's really not hard to be thought of well and hardly ever have losing seasons when you take over a team with a young franchise QB. |
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His playcalling has been suspect at times as well, but it's become apparent that he was just catering to the limitation of Smith. Mahomes straight up went for the 99 yard kill shot with a 2 TD lead in the 4th against the Steelers, so hopefully the days of extreme turtling on offense are behind us. |
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McNabb had a lot of check down in him too, it's because he wasn't all that accurate. |
Mecca nailed it.
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I should actually add on to what I said, Mike Tomlin is kind of an embarrassment to what the Steelers have generally been over the years.
His team's aren't tough, he's a defensive background coach that has let the defense become trash. His best players are constantly surrounded by drama bullshit..matter of fact he is too with shit he says and tripping a dude returning a kick... He's literally a guy who is thought of as a good coach because he took over a Superbowl team and managed to win 1 more..I could argue he should have done far more than that and has really just turned that team into the most chaotic locker room in the league. If Tomlin had started where most coaches had with some team that just went 3-13 having to rebuild the whole thing, would he have turned them around? Would he have 2 SB appearances...I seriously doubt it. |
Andy Reid is about to revolutionize football. All he needed was a QB who could make the throws to beat what happens when you attack the spread.
Reid + Mahomes. Checkmate NFL. |
Tomlin is Barry Switzer with a longer leash.
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Mike Tomlin acts like he is the ****ing man meanwhile his players have no respect and can't even act professional because well he doesn't ask them to. |
Mecca, I'd be careful talking about Tomlin outside of CP. I was basically called a racist on another board for suggesting Tomlin was overrated and he’s at fault for the drama surrounding the Steelers every year.
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I still don’t trust Andy completely. He’s had the better team/QB and lost to weaker teams in the playoffs several times.
I will say that this is the best chance he’s got. The AFC is weak and Mahomes is amazing. |
I really don't know what to say/think. On the one hand I really do feel like Tomlin and Cowher before him were overrated coaches. But putting aside everything else, their teams WERE/ARE in the playoffs basically every year, and that has to count for something.
And I agree with McCarthy too. Then I think Sean Payton, and oh, gee, he's had Drew Brees for like 10 years and only gone to one SB also, and his teams on average have been far worse than McCarthy's. The real issue is this-- I look at the coaches over the last 15-20 years and they all -- otehr than Belichick -- seem kinda mediocre compared to the coaches of my youth -- Shula, Walsh, Parcells, Gibbs and the like. Today's coaches, at best, remind me of the second tier guys from that era -- the Bum PHillips, Chuck Knox's etc. But then I realize, there can't really be only one great coach in the NFL right now, right? I mean, if NOBODY is "better than average", then we have the bar in the wrong place, and there's just different ways to skin a cat and the whole exercise of consistent success is just MUCH harder than we all think. |
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For a long time I thought the Steelers hired him because you know when it's the Rooney rule you kinda have to go with it. I don't think he's like the worst coach ever I just think he was gifted a situation that most everyone would have succeeded in. And now that the team has more of his guys on it they are falling apart. And for all that he still has Cowhers QB. |
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If an alien (or bandwagon fan) ever wants the flavor of CP - direct them to this goddamn reeruned abortion of a thread.
Go through it and look at the myriad of conflicting gripes. If Andy is sitting on a lead in the 2nd half and throws the ball around - "Reid is such an idiot, he can't manage a clock!" If Reid is sitting on a 2nd half lead and runs the ball "Goddamn Reid is taking his foot off the gas, what an idiot..." For the love of ****. We have unquestionably one of the 5 best coaches in the NFL, a goddamn QB guru and offensive wizard in the era of offensive football. He's a single SB victory from being a cinch HoFer and even without one he'll likely end up among the top 10-15 most successful coaches in NFL history. There is a single coach in the NFL I'd take over him right now and that's because Sean McVay is 14 years old and will be doing this for 3 decades. So I'm just going to quote myself from the last time this pack of braindead ****s were saying we needed to replace him with Josh McDaniels Quote:
And somehow there's a 1,200 post thread based on the premise that he's ****ing Jeff Fisher. Idiots. All of you. |
It’s interesting to me that Reid has a much better coaching tree than Belichick. He is long overdue to win a Super Bowl. At least now he has a fearless QB who enjoys shootouts with other QB’s. This could push Andy over the top.
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If you think Reid is some sort of gameday rube, you're just not watching enough football outside of KC. Even the almighty Belichick allows things to get hairy in the 4th and that's with a wizard under center. Andy has spent his entire career here playing chess every game and trying to create mismatches against teams. And as a general rule, he's succeeded. He's a well above average gameday coach as well but people are looking for someone to blame. |
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Mike Tomlin a guy who's never had a losing record in 12 years been to 2 super bowls and won 1 is a bad coach. I've seen it all on here.
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Tomlin is not an X's and O's offensive guy. He's not really a defensive guy either. He's a rah-rah guy. And right now that D is struggling and his rah rah is not providing leadership. That locker room is in turmoil. So if you arent an offensive guy, you arent a defensive guy and your rah rah isn't leading anymore, then wtf are you doing? 'Bout to get fired if he doesnt turn that shit around, that's what. |
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It's just like the Bob Sutton argument here. The truly elite coaches make good units great but even great coaches can't make bad units good. Likewise, bad coaches can make great units good but they can't make great units bad. Talent trumps everything else in the NFL, period. |
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