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penbrook 12-08-2015 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 11939685)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="pl" dir="ltr">Source: Zobrist to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cubs?src=hash">#Cubs</a>.</p>&mdash; Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/674387293675716608">December 9, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Not bad actually. He gets to be reunited with Maddon. That team is gonna be loaded

penbrook 12-08-2015 06:43 PM

4/56 for Zobrist and he rejected several higher offers

duncan_idaho 12-08-2015 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11939626)
That's about a 75 win lineup. Gross


Would guess Moustakas would hit 2 in that lineup rather than 7.

If Cain/Hosmer/Morales/Moustakas repeat their 2015 seasons (or improve), it looks much different than that. I'd put it higher.

If this offense is league average, they'll win 90+ again unless the pitching just collapses.

wazu 12-08-2015 06:48 PM

Do we play Cubs next year in Kauffman?

tk13 12-08-2015 06:49 PM

I thought they'd toyed with moving Cuthbert to the OF before. I'm all for that... I think he's going to be good. I thought his bat looked like it belonged last year.

tk13 12-08-2015 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 11939705)
Do we play Cubs next year in Kauffman?

We just played them this year in interleague, so we won't play them again for 3 years.

WilliamTheIrish 12-08-2015 06:52 PM

Thanks BZ.

It was an incredible ride.

(Tips cap)

Anyong Bluth 12-08-2015 06:57 PM

Well, scratch Zobrist off the list. Cubs

TLO 12-08-2015 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 11939710)
We just played them this year in interleague, so we won't play them again for 3 years.

I thought they were here for opening day for some reason?

SAUTO 12-08-2015 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Li'l Smokey (Post 11939729)
I thought they were here for opening day for some reason?

Mets

Anyong Bluth 12-08-2015 07:01 PM

As a Chicago resident and the Cubs being my "NL" team since I was a kid - WGN brainwashed me, this is about the least depressing scenario if you were forced to pick somewhere and it couldn't be back with the Royals.

WhawhaWhat 12-08-2015 07:05 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cubs will be paying Ben Zobrist thru his age 38 season. Only one player in last 10 years totaled more than 5.1 WAR at age 37-38: David Ortiz</p>&mdash; Jayson Stark (@jaysonst) <a href="https://twitter.com/jaysonst/status/674393306273472513">December 9, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Anyong Bluth 12-08-2015 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11939334)
we're not going to be keeping either Gordo or Zobrist apparently. :(


That sucks

I
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lex Luthor (Post 11939364)
It sucks, but it's perfectly understandable. I like the idea of saving the money and using it to keep the younger core of players who are just as good as Gordon and Zobrist.

It does completely suck. GORDON especially, even though Zobrist really is a GD embodiment of a Swiss Army knife kind of player.
We'll miss you, Alice!

penbrook 12-08-2015 07:07 PM

I ain't even mad b cause we knew Zobrist was just a rental!

Al Bundy 12-08-2015 07:08 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Yankees are giving up Adam Warren and a player to be named for Castro.</p>&mdash; Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/674394967272464386">December 9, 2015</a></blockquote>
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KCUnited 12-08-2015 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 11939685)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="pl" dir="ltr">Source: Zobrist to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cubs?src=hash">#Cubs</a>.</p>&mdash; Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/674387293675716608">December 9, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Still won't get me out to that Chernobyl-after-the-leak of a stadium.

Deberg_1990 12-08-2015 07:11 PM

That sucks. Oh well.


We have to remember as fans, to a lot of these guys it's just a business.

Can't blame them one bit for chasing after the most money they can get. Especially after they get a ring.

Al Bundy 12-08-2015 07:11 PM

**** the Cubs. But good for Zobrist getting one last payday.

Anyong Bluth 12-08-2015 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 11939431)
Should Dyson play center or right?

Wherever Cain doesn't want to play.

His potential for the numbers he may post if he build off last year like he did this previous season, are drool worthy! You want him happy and focused. He very well could be slashing MVP numbers with a bit more pop in his bat, and could be the best reason KC is a legitimate threat to be return for a 3rd time in a row to the fall classic.

KCCHIEFS27 12-08-2015 07:18 PM

Adam Warren and Brendan Ryan for Castro. Probably a better deal for the Cubs.

Anyong Bluth 12-08-2015 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 11939615)
I think this is why we haven't heard anything on them being all in on one of the better outfielders. I know Parra is an option, but ehhh..

I'm not of the opinion they are that interested in the guys available vs someone already in the organization - especially when they fully expect Bubba will be there in 1 more season.

Dyson is great in my opinion - they're not going to get less from him than what they did all season long from that position at the plate. I don't honestly think you can bank on Dyson being able to stay healthy for a full 162. Maybe 2/3rds as a platoon, and I'd feel a lot better if it was more like a 50/50 platoon split.
Keep them healthy and Dyson can certainly play CF on days to spell Cain.

duncan_idaho 12-08-2015 07:19 PM

I still like the idea of kicking the tires on Hyun Soo-Kim as an OF option. Could be a very similar player to Parra but at a discounted price (due to his Korean-ness).

Drew Stubbs remains an interesting/intriguing platoon partner for Jarrod Dyson. He had a bad 2015, but he's a god athlete who is going to be a cheap signing as a FA and has traditionally hit very well vs. LHP.

Of course, Brett Eibner might be able to provide 80-90 percent of what Stubbs can, at a fraction of the cost.

Anyong Bluth 12-08-2015 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 11939759)
That sucks. Oh well.


We have to remember as fans, to a lot of these guys it's just a business.

Can't blame them one bit for chasing after the most money they can get. Especially after they get a ring.

How could you not take that deal?

His former manager AND he is going to a legit team that could win a WS in the next 4 years.

He made out like a bandit, and I don't have any spite for him. He'd be a Royal next season if he didn't get grossly overpaid.

Half that contract is dead money

Mr. Laz 12-08-2015 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lex Luthor (Post 11939364)
It sucks, but it's perfectly understandable. I like the idea of saving the money and using it to keep the younger core of players who are just as good as Gordon and Zobrist.

What in the hell makes you think we are keeping ANYONE?

once a player becomes good they are gone

pretty standard for us :harumph:

Anyong Bluth 12-08-2015 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCCHIEFS27 (Post 11939766)
Adam Warren and Brendan Ryan for Castro. Probably a better deal for the Cubs.

It's not a question of if but when they win a WS now, IMO.

Mr. Laz 12-08-2015 07:27 PM

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/...20150214211625

Mr. Laz 12-08-2015 07:27 PM

/Edit this has disappeared on twitter now, so put in under "rumor" now because i can't find a secondary verification


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a> have acquired Carlos Gonzalez from the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Rockies?src=hash">#Rockies</a>.</p>&mdash; Ken Rosenthal (@JohneyBeisbol) <a href="https://twitter.com/JohneyBeisbol/status/674397484718796800">December 9, 2015</a></blockquote>
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WilliamTheIrish 12-08-2015 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11939780)
What in the hell makes you think we are keeping ANYONE?

once a player becomes good they are gone

pretty standard for us :harumph:

Oh Laz... That's so 2003.

Mr. Laz 12-08-2015 07:28 PM

Glass can lick my scrotum

Sure-Oz 12-08-2015 07:29 PM

@ChrisCotillo: Sources: Royals, Cubs, Giants in on Gerardo Parra. He has 3-year offer(s) on the table. Hopeful for 4-year deal. Story coming @mlbdailydish

Mr. Laz 12-08-2015 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 11939788)
Oh Laz... That's so 2003.

I just lashing out because i'm pissed. :deevee:

Sure-Oz 12-08-2015 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 11939693)
4/56 for Zobrist and he rejected several higher offers

Wow...gonna miss him one of my favorite Royals in a half season

Bearcat 12-08-2015 07:30 PM

Damn. Thanks for the hits and stuff.

Saul Good 12-08-2015 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11939787)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a> have acquired Carlos Gonzalez from the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Rockies?src=hash">#Rockies</a>.</p>&mdash; Ken Rosenthal (@JohneyBeisbol) <a href="https://twitter.com/JohneyBeisbol/status/674397484718796800">December 9, 2015</a></blockquote>
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They demanded Infante in return...really liked his surplus value.

New World Order 12-08-2015 07:37 PM

I love the gonzo pickup. Nice.

Prison Bitch 12-08-2015 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 11939716)
Thanks BZ.

It was an incredible ride.

(Tips cap)

He was awesome. I'm surprised he didn't clear 60.

penbrook 12-08-2015 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 11939813)
I love the gonzo pickup. Nice.

Yea I wonder what it would really take to get him

duncan_idaho 12-08-2015 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 11939813)
I love the gonzo pickup. Nice.

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20150523170436

Prison Bitch 12-08-2015 07:44 PM

Mlb network special Thurs 7pm: "Royal In KC: 30 years later". Compares both title teams

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Q-AM1CcVHg...park-randy.jpg

tk13 12-08-2015 07:44 PM

Braves trade Shelby Miller to the D'backs, and get a haul in return.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Stunning return for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Braves?src=hash">#Braves</a> - Inciarte, pitching prospect Blair and Swanson, No. 1 overall pick in ‘15 draft - and potential long-term SS.</p>&mdash; Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/674402104589463552">December 9, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Prison Bitch 12-08-2015 07:45 PM

That deal for Miller is crazy. Those guys are all-in this year.

SAUTO 12-08-2015 07:47 PM

Reports that zobrist wanted to play 2nd exclusively. No more Swiss army knife

tk13 12-08-2015 07:48 PM

Makes sense because Arizona had such a good offense last year... plus Miller is under control for 2-3 more years. But still, giving up the #1 overall player in the draft last year, plus two other guys. The Braves certainly aren't hurting for prospects.

KChiefs1 12-08-2015 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11939787)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash">#Royals</a> have acquired Carlos Gonzalez from the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Rockies?src=hash">#Rockies</a>.</p>— Ken Rosenthal (@JohneyBeisbol) <a href="https://twitter.com/JohneyBeisbol/status/674397484718796800">December 9, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Wow!

KChiefs1 12-08-2015 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 11939790)
@ChrisCotillo: Sources: Royals, Cubs, Giants in on Gerardo Parra. He has 3-year offer(s) on the table. Hopeful for 4-year deal. Story coming @mlbdailydish


Meh

penbrook 12-08-2015 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 11939851)
Wow!

Haha don't believe that guy! He's worse than the weatherman!

KChiefs1 12-08-2015 08:04 PM

*** Official 2016 Royals Offseason Repository ***
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 11939860)
Haha don't believe that guy! He's worse than the weatherman!


Ken Rosenthal?

Oh ****! Just saw it wasn't Rosenthal.

@&$Xfr$&($:($!!!!!!!!!!!

Fairplay 12-08-2015 08:25 PM

Cubbies a playoff team next year, maybe go to the WS

srvy 12-08-2015 08:28 PM

So what are the Zobrists going to name the Chicago baby? Cubbie?

I don't know why my heart sunk but Zobes on day 1 in a KC uni just struck a cord and I really took a shine to that guy. But have to admire GMDM he has his price and sticks to his guns. Oh ya and FU Madden I thought you were all about Gordo so I resigned my self to the fact we lose him but gain Ben. No I have to deal with losing them both.

Good luck Ben and family was a wild ride and we couln't have done it without you.

Prison Bitch 12-08-2015 08:49 PM

Royals one of 4 for Cespedes?

http://nypost.com/2015/12/08/how-roy...pedes-suitors/

penbrook 12-08-2015 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11939938)

This was like 7 hours ago. The Royals are no longer interested because he wants a 4 year deal!

BigCatDaddy 12-08-2015 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 11939945)
This was like 7 hours ago. The Royals are no longer interested because he wants a 4 year deal!

He is only 30. I doubt 4 years is a sticking point. Doesnt seem to fit the attitude they look for though.

RealSNR 12-08-2015 09:03 PM

Yoenis "first WS inside-the-park home run since 1920s" Cespedes on the defensively-minded Royals?

Yeah, I call bullshit

penbrook 12-08-2015 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 11939959)
He is only 30. I doubt 4 years is a sticking point. Doesnt seem to fit the attitude they look for though.

Per MLBTraderumors

Joel Sherman of the New York Post reports that the Giants, Angels, Tigers and Royals have been the most interested clubs in Cespedes’ market thus far in the offseason. However, Sherman adds that the Royals quickly came to realize that Cespedes is going to be beyond four years.

ChiefsCountry 12-08-2015 09:05 PM

Royals are getting into the Cespedes sweepstakes to know what Gordon can get IMO.

SAUTO 12-08-2015 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 11939972)
Per MLBTraderumors

Joel Sherman of the New York Post reports that the Giants, Angels, Tigers and Royals have been the most interested clubs in Cespedes’ market thus far in the offseason. However, Sherman adds that the Royals quickly came to realize that Cespedes is going to be beyond four years.

That's not what it says in the actual article. No idea why they our you said it that way.

The ACTUAL article just says we think the deal will be out of our comfort zone

KCCHIEFS27 12-08-2015 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 11939972)
Per MLBTraderumors

Joel Sherman of the New York Post reports that the Giants, Angels, Tigers and Royals have been the most interested clubs in Cespedes’ market thus far in the offseason. However, Sherman adds that the Royals quickly came to realize that Cespedes is going to be beyond four years.

Forgot the years...the money is the problem. Cespedes is going to want a lot of money over the years. This is a non-story.

penbrook 12-08-2015 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 11939983)
That's not what it says in the actual article. No idea why they our you said it that way.

The ACTUAL article just says we think the deal will be out of our comfort zone

This was literally posted on MLBTraderumors.com

tk13 12-08-2015 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 11939969)
Yoenis "first WS inside-the-park home run since 1920s" Cespedes on the defensively-minded Royals?

Yeah, I call bullshit

To be fair, he's not a bad defensive player. He shouldn't be a CF though... like he was on that play. His arm in LF is off the charts.

penbrook 12-08-2015 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 11939999)
To be fair, he's not a bad defensive player. He shouldn't be a CF though... like he was on that play. His arm in LF is off the charts.

He swings and misses too much. Doesn't fit the Royals way

tk13 12-08-2015 09:25 PM

And he can get sloppy out there, even in left... but his cannon helps negate some of that.

SAUTO 12-08-2015 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 11939991)
This was literally posted on MLBTraderumors.com

That's not what the article literally says

cosmo20002 12-08-2015 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11938999)
Why are the meetings in Nashville? It's a cold location and there's no effing team there. What are they doing?

No one gives a shit

Prison Bitch 12-08-2015 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 11940026)
No one gives a shit

Nobody cared when you repeatedly said you from Omaha either. Didn't stop you.

Great Expectations 12-08-2015 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 11939969)
Yoenis "first WS inside-the-park home run since 1920s" Cespedes on the defensively-minded Royals?

Yeah, I call bullshit

He won the AL left field gold glove this year......

BigCatDaddy 12-08-2015 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 11939945)
This was like 7 hours ago. The Royals are no longer interested because he wants a 4 year deal!

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 11939972)
Per MLBTraderumors

Joel Sherman of the New York Post reports that the Giants, Angels, Tigers and Royals have been the most interested clubs in Cespedes’ market thus far in the offseason. However, Sherman adds that the Royals quickly came to realize that Cespedes is going to be beyond four years.

You realize you said "a 4 year deal" and the article says BEYOND 4 years, right? Which is also why I said I doubt 4 years is a sticking point and sounds like it isnt.

cosmo20002 12-08-2015 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 11939969)
Yoenis "first WS inside-the-park home run since 1920s" Cespedes on the defensively-minded Royals?

Yeah, I call bullshit

2015 Gold Glove

LoneWolf 12-08-2015 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 11940038)
2015 Gold Glove

Matt Cassel made the Pro Bowl once.

Cespedes' defense in the World Series was awful.

cosmo20002 12-08-2015 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 11940043)
Matt Cassel made the Pro Bowl once.

Cespedes' defense in the World Series was awful.

So was Hosmer's. Not really the way to judge someone over a season, is it?

And the Pro Bowl is a really stupid comparison. Really stupid.

Sure-Oz 12-08-2015 10:03 PM

@MLBBruceLevine: Cubs not done yet according to source . Big time outfielder next ? Hayward -Gordan - Car Go ?

KevB 12-08-2015 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 11940081)
@MLBBruceLevine: Cubs not done yet according to source . Big time outfielder next ? Hayward -Gordan - Car Go ?

Having a rich farm system and having a bunch of money to spend must be fun.

Jerm 12-08-2015 10:20 PM

Holy shit the Braves fleeced the D'Backs....building a shit ton of young talent.

TribalElder 12-08-2015 10:23 PM

Bummer, zobrist was pretty good

Fairplay 12-08-2015 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 11940026)
No one gives a shit

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DaneMcCloud 12-08-2015 10:46 PM

The Diamondbacks are making a huge move this offseason.

It makes me wonder how long LaRussa will stick with Chip Hale if he struggles and replace him with himself.

KChiefs1 12-08-2015 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 11939969)
Yoenis "first WS inside-the-park home run since 1920s" Cespedes on the defensively-minded Royals?



Yeah, I call bullshit


He won the gold glove over Gordon.

penbrook 12-08-2015 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 11940160)
He won the gold glove over Gordon.

Because Gordon was out almost half the season!!

Lex Luthor 12-08-2015 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11939780)
What in the hell makes you think we are keeping ANYONE?

once a player becomes good they are gone

pretty standard for us :harumph:

JFC. I thought I had heard "same old Royals" for the last ****ing time.

It's NOT the same old Royals. Get that through your head.

Gravedigger 12-08-2015 11:23 PM

If you want to know all you need to know about Cespedes look at the catch he tried to catch behind his back in the World Series and it bounced away and cost his team dearly on Escobars inside the park homerun.

Cespedes is not a Royal, he's a Yankee/Met/Dodger or whatever team will overpay him to make stupid decisions in the outfield and hit homers. He's the equivalent of Phillip Rivers, the talent is not worth the lack of team leadership,consistency, and overall just not giving a shit sometimes.

Saul Good 12-08-2015 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 11939959)
He is only 30. I doubt 4 years is a sticking point. Doesnt seem to fit the attitude they look for though.

His age is very much in doubt around MLB.


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