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SAUTO 09-24-2018 07:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13760278)
The guy is just super ****ing negative and takes the contrarian opinion EVERY single time.

He told me Mahomes was gonna throw a bunch of picks and we'd all miss Alex and now it's "the picks are still coming, he's going to have shitty games" "everyone is way to excited about this it's 3 games" "8-8 team still"

This is harsh but he's one of those guys who got married and divorced very early in life and since then he's been nothing but a huge negative pain in the ass. He literally has no hobbies and no job and then will tell me he is to busy to do something...and it's all I can do to not say busy doing what staring at the ceiling?

I've just had a ****ing enough. Team gets a franchise QB with the best start you could ever ask for and you're gonna give me negative shit? **** you.

He spends all day listening to 610 and repeating what they say and it's like hey man just so you know ron the show is not a good source of information.
You almost described yourself from years ago. ROFL.

Glad your happy with the qb

pugsnotdrugs19 09-24-2018 07:25 PM
Let’s play with hypotheticals here.

It’s January. The Chiefs are hosting the AFC Championship game (or on the road, whatever), and they’re playing New England (because that’s always the safe assumption).

We can either try to defend Gronk, Gordon, and Edelman with what we have.. or we CAN defend them with the addition of Thomas and Berry. They’d be able to limit Gronk IMO, Fuller can match up with Edelman, and we can keep Earl deep with an eye on Gordon.

Idk, I know it’s a little early, but I’m just trying to think big picture. It might really make the difference this season. Cause even then, if you play the Rams in the SB, Earl can stay over top of Cooks. He’s just a big time eraser back there of big plays.

Imon Yourside 09-24-2018 07:27 PM
Are we there yet?

TambaBerry 09-24-2018 07:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13760355)
Let’s play with hypotheticals here.

It’s January. The Chiefs are hosting the AFC Championship game (or on the road, whatever), and they’re playing New England (because that’s always the safe assumption).

We can either try to defend Gronk, Gordon, and Edelman with what we have.. or we CAN defend them with the addition of Thomas and Berry. They’d be able to limit Gronk IMO, Fuller can match up with Edelman, and we can keep Earl deep with an eye on Gordon.

Idk, I know it’s a little early, but I’m just trying to think big picture. It might really make the difference this season. Cause even then, if you play the Rams in the SB, Earl can stay over top of Cooks. He’s just a big time eraser back there of big plays.
yep, i don't give a **** how much you're spending on safety position, also who makes this up anyways. If we get Berry back and add Thomas then watch out holy shit

booger 09-24-2018 07:36 PM
It gets kinda old after so many years it’s like I’m gonna go jump on CP and express my opinion about whatever and then I get here and read through some bastards thread saying kinda the same thing I am thinking then I just say **** do I really want to type that out on my phone what 19 of you bastards said in some sort of way about how Eric Murray takes piss poor pursuit angles? Scratch my balls and hit refresh and 5 more of you shits said it so I’m like ok **** our qb was born in ‘95 ? Young man is mounting this opportunity like a man this is fun to watch

htismaqe 09-24-2018 07:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by booger (Post 13760450)
It gets kinda old after so many years it’s like I’m gonna go jump on CP and express my opinion about whatever and then I get here and read through some bastards thread saying kinda the same thing I am thinking then I just say **** do I really want to type that out on my phone what 19 of you bastards said in some sort of way about how Eric Murray takes piss poor pursuit angles? Scratch my balls and hit refresh and 5 more of you shits said it so I’m like ok **** our qb was born in ‘95 ? Young man is mounting this opportunity like a man this is fun to watch
ROFL

Simply Red 09-24-2018 07:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 13760404)
yep, i don't give a **** how much you're spending on safety position, also who makes this up anyways. If we get Berry back and add Thomas then watch out holy shit
If that happens - I'll spew in my own hair.

carcosa 09-24-2018 07:46 PM
Earl Thomas

Mecca 09-24-2018 07:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13760337)
You almost described yourself from years ago. ROFL.

Glad your happy with the qb
Yea but at least they sucked when I was negative they did everything I've asked for so why should I still feel that way? I also learned to not live and die so much with the team.

A lot of times he's one of those guys who will say things like "well they should win but this is the type of game they lose" so he can say he was right no matter what, that's super frustrating to deal with.

booger 09-24-2018 07:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13760474)
ROFL
After the throw in the pre season in Atlanta I jumped up celebrating and knocked the laptop off the table I have to fix it then my masterbaition tablet is ****ed with malware so I try my best on keep my phone my damn eyes are going bad or something!

Mecca 09-24-2018 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13760309)
I bet he posts here.
Yea he doesn't like this forum he told me that we're all stupid and homers.

SAUTO 09-24-2018 07:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by booger (Post 13760450)
It gets kinda old after so many years it’s like I’m gonna go jump on CP and express my opinion about whatever and then I get here and read through some bastards thread saying kinda the same thing I am thinking then I just say **** do I really want to type that out on my phone what 19 of you bastards said in some sort of way about how Eric Murray takes piss poor pursuit angles? Scratch my balls and hit refresh and 5 more of you shits said it so I’m like ok **** our qb was born in ‘95 ? Young man is mounting this opportunity like a man this is fun to watch
ROFL

We're definitely in for a wild ride

booger 09-24-2018 07:51 PM
ROFL
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13760497)
If that happens - I'll spew in my own hair.
I read that at first as spooo like you were going to toss off on your own hair and I’m like impossible to surprise with shit like that but I’m like my gosh red you dirty pig that’s hilarious

htismaqe 09-24-2018 07:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13760510)
Yea he doesn't like this forum he told me that we're all stupid and homers.
ROFL

booger 09-24-2018 07:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13760515)
ROFL

We're definitely in for a wild ride
****ing A right we are :thumb:

htismaqe 09-24-2018 07:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by booger (Post 13760508)
After the throw in the pre season in Atlanta I jumped up celebrating and knocked the laptop off the table I have to fix it then my masterbaition tablet is ****ed with malware so I try my best on keep my phone my damn eyes are going bad or something!
ROFL

SAUTO 09-24-2018 07:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by booger (Post 13760508)
After the throw in the pre season in Atlanta I jumped up celebrating and knocked the laptop off the table I have to fix it then my masterbaition tablet is ****ed with malware so I try my best on keep my phone my damn eyes are going bad or something!
ROFL

Mecca 09-24-2018 07:58 PM
Is that Booger Mcfarland?

Mecca 09-24-2018 08:01 PM
Classic take today...

"Alex Smith could do that with all these guys on the offense" I respond...it's the same ****ing guys with Watkins added dude...

"Yea well that Oline is playing a lot better" I respond maybe that's because Mahomes knows how to use the pocket and when he moves he keeps his eyes up to throw, a QB can make a line good or bad.

His response "I'm not debating this with you anymore, you hate Alex, you won't admit he's a good QB, and blaming him for the oline play is just ridiculous, the QB has nothing to do with it. Mahomes holds the ball longer than Alex, the announcers on tv even said he does"

This is what I deal with.

ROYC75 09-24-2018 08:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13760581)
Classic take today...

"Alex Smith could do that with all these guys on the offense" I respond...it's the same ****ing guys with Watkins added dude...

"Yea well that Oline is playing a lot better" I respond maybe that's because Mahomes knows how to use the pocket and when he moves he keeps his eyes up to throw, a QB can make a line good or bad.

His response "I'm not debating this with you anymore, you hate Alex, you won't admit he's a good QB, and blaming him for the oline play is just ridiculous, the QB has nothing to do with it. Mahomes holds the ball longer than Alex, the announcers on tv even said he does"

This is what I deal with.
Man, that is a no win situation.

BTA, you can always tell him 11 for 11 red zone td's in a row.

Mother****erJones 09-24-2018 08:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13760278)
The guy is just super ****ing negative and takes the contrarian opinion EVERY single time.

He told me Mahomes was gonna throw a bunch of picks and we'd all miss Alex and now it's "the picks are still coming, he's going to have shitty games" "everyone is way to excited about this it's 3 games" "8-8 team still"

This is harsh but he's one of those guys who got married and divorced very early in life and since then he's been nothing but a huge negative pain in the ass. He literally has no hobbies and no job and then will tell me he is to busy to do something...and it's all I can do to not say busy doing what staring at the ceiling?

I've just had a ****ing enough. Team gets a franchise QB with the best start you could ever ask for and you're gonna give me negative shit? **** you.

He spends all day listening to 610 and repeating what they say and it's like hey man just so you know ron the show is not a good source of information.
Lol I remember Ron saying Peters was traded because he was black. CDot told him that wasn’t remotely true

ROYC75 09-24-2018 08:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by booger (Post 13760508)
After the throw in the pre season in Atlanta I jumped up celebrating and knocked the laptop off the table I have to fix it then my masterbaition tablet is ****ed with malware so I try my best on keep my phone my damn eyes are going bad or something!
ROFL

Simply Red 09-24-2018 08:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13760581)
Classic take today...

"Alex Smith could do that with all these guys on the offense" I respond...it's the same ****ing guys with Watkins added dude...

"Yea well that Oline is playing a lot better" I respond maybe that's because Mahomes knows how to use the pocket and when he moves he keeps his eyes up to throw, a QB can make a line good or bad.

His response "I'm not debating this with you anymore, you hate Alex, you won't admit he's a good QB, and blaming him for the oline play is just ridiculous, the QB has nothing to do with it. Mahomes holds the ball longer than Alex, the announcers on tv even said he does"

This is what I deal with.
Sounds annoying.

SDChiefs 09-24-2018 08:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13760064)
yeah okay but that's a different thing than I was arguing against. His current deal is 10m a year.

I want them to do it, just to be clear.
I read, every week that goes by, that number goes down by a single game paycheck. Because if we get him 8 weeks in, we are not punished for his first 8 games with Seattle. We are responsible for half his annual salary. Dont remember where I read it.

Simply Red 09-24-2018 08:26 PM
I'm starting to feel like Earl is going to happen.

RunKC 09-24-2018 08:30 PM
From Terez

“Best asset in football is the franchise QB; second best is draft assets. I don’t think they give a 1st or 2nd rd pick for him.”

htismaqe 09-24-2018 08:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13760669)
From Terez

“Best asset in football is the franchise QB; second best is draft assets. I don’t think they give a 1st or 2nd rd pick for him.”
So they're going to punt on a historical season by said QB? That sucks.

Sassy Squatch 09-24-2018 08:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13760669)
From Terez

“Best asset in football is the franchise QB; second best is draft assets. I don’t think they give a 1st or 2nd rd pick for him.”
Well, that settles that.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 08:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13760673)
Well, that settles that.
"There's always next year!"

LOL

TribalElder 09-24-2018 08:32 PM
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...r-earl-thomas/

andy doesn't see chiefs making a trade

Sassy Squatch 09-24-2018 08:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13760676)
"There's always next year!"

LOL
Never really seemed like the interest was all that genuine outside of due diligence.

O.city 09-24-2018 08:34 PM
If he was under contract for longer maybe

But a high pick and a new deal? Nah, that’s rare to happen

carcosa 09-24-2018 08:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13760669)
From Terez

“Best asset in football is the franchise QB; second best is draft assets. I don’t think they give a 1st or 2nd rd pick for him.”
SHIT!!!!

htismaqe 09-24-2018 08:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 13760679)
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...r-earl-thomas/

andy doesn't see chiefs making a trade
Old news.

And coach speak.

Pretty much nothing that comes out of Andy's mouth is useful.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 08:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13760689)
If he was under contract for longer maybe

But a high pick and a new deal? Nah, that’s rare to happen
You know what's not rare to happen?

Watching the Chiefs lose in the playoffs.

RunKC 09-24-2018 08:35 PM
Terez is saying that Tyreek and Jones need to be signed and the Chiefs want them to.

They’re gonna get that done in the Spring.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 08:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13760696)
Terez is saying that Tyreek and Jones need to be signed and the Chiefs want them to.

They’re gonna get that done in the Spring.
In the spring. Always in the spring.

Always about "next season". For 40 freaking years.

pugsnotdrugs19 09-24-2018 08:37 PM
If he keeps stirring the pot in Seattle they may be able to swing a deal for less than a 2nd round pick even.

Sassy Squatch 09-24-2018 08:37 PM
LMAO Poor htismage is devastated over something that wasn't ever likely going to happen. Why do we do this to ourselves?

RunKC 09-24-2018 08:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13760698)
In the spring. Always in the spring.

Always about "next season". For 40 freaking years.
Retread QB is gone. If Mahomes is what he is now, the window is open every year for the next 15 years.

Legit SB contender every year.

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-24-2018 08:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13760698)
In the spring. Always in the spring.

Always about "next season". For 40 freaking years.
Jesus Christ ! Are you on Crack ?

Sassy Squatch 09-24-2018 08:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13760700)
If he keeps stirring the pot in Seattle they may be able to swing a deal for less than a 2nd round pick even.
Unless Dallas pulled the 2nd rounder off the table that won't be enough.

-King- 09-24-2018 08:39 PM
I'd trade a conditional 4th for him without doing a new deal. Conditions based on him staying healthy and team accomplishments. Becomes a 3rd for making the AFCCG, a 2nd if we make the Superbowl. I don't want to give them a first at all, but if they want a first for a Superbowl win, I really don't give a **** lol, I'd give damn near anything for that.
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htismaqe 09-24-2018 08:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13760702)
LMAO Poor htismage is devastated over something that wasn't ever likely going to happen. Why do we do this to ourselves?
Not devastated at all. I mean, it's the Chiefs things to do. Go get the franchise QB, have him play out of his mind, and then don't take advantage of it.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 08:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13760704)
Retread QB is gone. If Mahomes is what he is now, the window is open every year for the next 15 years.

Legit SB contender every year.
I don't freaking care.

They're a legit SB contender THIS YEAR.

The whole "it's a process" BS is exactly that, BS.

-King- 09-24-2018 08:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13760704)
Retread QB is gone. If Mahomes is what he is now, the window is open every year for the next 15 years.

Legit SB contender every year.
Our biggest window is these next 3-4 years though when Mahomes is on his rookie contract.
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pugsnotdrugs19 09-24-2018 08:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13760704)
Retread QB is gone. If Mahomes is what he is now, the window is open every year for the next 15 years.

Legit SB contender every year.
Will it ever be this open though? I’m not so sure...

I’ll be okay whether they get him or not, I’m just really not sure if the window will ever be more open.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 08:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 13760705)
Jesus Christ ! Are you on Crack ?
Of course I am. I mean we all know we don't need an All Pro safety when we can just fire one of the most successful coordinators in franchise history and fix everything.

It's magic!

O.city 09-24-2018 08:42 PM
Yeah I’d do it the next 3 years

Once they have to pay pat, it’s gonna get tougher

Sassy Squatch 09-24-2018 08:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13760717)
Not devastated at all. I mean, it's the Chiefs things to do. Go get the franchise QB, have him play out of his mind, and then don't take advantage of it.
Meh. We really don't know either one of

A. What Seattle actually wants for Thomas outside of at least a 2nd rounder + more

Or

B. What Thomas wants as far as a new contract.

Not blaming the Chiefs for this one yet.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 08:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13760729)
Meh. We really don't know either one of

A. What Seattle actually wants for Thomas outside of at least a 2nd rounder + more

Or

B. What Thomas wants as far as a new contract.

Not blaming the Chiefs for this one yet.
Well, I'm just not really all that pragmatic about it. Mahomes is having an historic season. I don't care what they want or what he wants, give them both whatever it takes and get it done.

Sassy Squatch 09-24-2018 08:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13760736)
Well, I'm just not really all that pragmatic about it. Mahomes is having an historic season. I don't care what they want or what he wants, give them both whatever it takes and get it done.
**** that.

RunKC 09-24-2018 08:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13760722)
Will it ever be this open though? I’m not so sure...
Yes. In 2 years Brady is done and the Jags defense isn’t that good anymore bc they will lose quality players to FA/forced cuts.

Manning, Brady and Big Ben have run this ****ing conference for 16 years. It’s going to be wide the **** open for us soon.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 08:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13760740)
Yes. In 2 years Brady is done and the Jags defense isn’t that good anymore bc they will lose quality players to FA/forced cuts.

Manning, Brady and Big Ben have run this ****ing conference for 16 years. It’s goifm to be wide the **** open for us soon.
It's wide open RIGHT NOW.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 08:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13760738)
**** that.
I've waited 35 years to see them play in a Super Bowl. I've suffered through like FIFTEEN retread QBs. I'm done waiting. You don't ever pass up an opportunity.

The Dolphins had this opportunity in Marino's first year and they made it all the way to the Super Bowl.

They never made it again. This whole "we've got Mahomes for 15 years" is fool's gold. There's no way to predict the future, the NFL is all about NOW.

T-post Tom 09-24-2018 08:47 PM
If we're going Madden franchise mode.... would you trade Houston for Thomas?

Sassy Squatch 09-24-2018 08:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13760746)
I've waited 35 years to see them play in a Super Bowl. I've suffered through like FIFTEEN retread QBs. I'm done waiting. You don't ever pass up an opportunity.

The Dolphins had this opportunity in Marino's first year and they made it all the way to the Super Bowl.

They never made it again. This whole "we've got Mahomes for 15 years" is fool's gold. There's no way to predict the future, the NFL is all about NOW.
Thomas doesn't guarantee you shit, though. Guess I just don't value him as highly as you seem to. Certainly not enough to bend over and take it from both him AND the Seahawks.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 08:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 13760752)
If we're going Madden franchise mode.... would you trade Houston for Thomas?
Not with Ford being hurt.

Iowanian 09-24-2018 08:48 PM
Some of you are going to feel some tightness in your groin when Vera has gets him for a 4th.

Mecca 09-24-2018 08:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13760669)
From Terez

“Best asset in football is the franchise QB; second best is draft assets. I don’t think they give a 1st or 2nd rd pick for him.”
Terez who said this was a 7 or 8 win team after the Steelers game...I know people buy into him but he says some dumb shit
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RunKC 09-24-2018 08:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13760742)
It's wide open RIGHT NOW.
It is. Realize that Veach is trying to get Earl Thomas. He has until 10/30 to make it happen. That’s 5 weeks.

I think it is very possible that he’s trying to force Seattle to give a good deal. Depending on how things go, I would not be surprised to see Veach pull the trigger on 10/30.

pugsnotdrugs19 09-24-2018 08:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13760740)
Yes. In 2 years Brady is done and the Jags defense isn’t that good anymore bc they will lose quality players to FA/forced cuts.

Manning, Brady and Big Ben have run this ****ing conference for 16 years. It’s going to be wide the **** open for us soon.
I hope you’re right, and Mahomes’ mental prowess is what gives me the most hope that we can sustain conference dominance for awhile...

I just hate to count on that. Shit happens. Look at Luck right now and Indy.

O.city 09-24-2018 08:51 PM
Windows can close fast.

Go for it.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 08:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13760753)
Thomas doesn't guarantee you shit, though. Guess I just don't value him as highly as you seem to. Certainly not enough to bend over and take it from both him AND the Seahawks.
It's not just that I value Thomas (who incidentally is every bit as good as a healthy Berry).

It's that I don't view it as "bending over and taking it".

It might cost a late 1st or a couple of late 2nds. Those picks have very little worth to me. I don't have any desire to see another Dee Ford, KPass, or Speaks drafted. Complete waste of time since they'll be ready to play about the time Mahomes is looking for a big payday (which I wouldn't at all be surprised if they Chiefs didn't pay, by the way).

And it's not my money, it's Clark's. The salary cap is an excuse teams use when they don't want to take risks. Teams that want players find ways to get it done.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 08:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 13760755)
Some of you are going to feel some tightness in your groin when Vera has gets him for a 4th.
That's a boner. LOL

O.city 09-24-2018 08:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13760767)
It's not just that I value Thomas (who incidentally is every bit as good as a healthy Berry).

It's that I don't view it as "bending over and taking it".

It might cost a late 1st or a couple of late 2nds. Those picks have very little worth to me. I don't have any desire to see another Dee Ford, KPass, or Speaks drafted. Complete waste of time since they'll be ready to play about the time Mahomes is looking for a big payday (which I wouldn't at all be surprised if they Chiefs didn't pay, by the way).

And it's not my money, it's Clark's. The salary cap is an excuse teams use when they don't want to take risks. Teams that want players find ways to get it done.
LOL. Maybe take a break dude.

Sassy Squatch 09-24-2018 08:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13760767)
It's not just that I value Thomas (who incidentally is every bit as good as a healthy Berry).

It's that I don't view it as "bending over and taking it".

It might cost a late 1st or a couple of late 2nds. Those picks have very little worth to me. I don't have any desire to see another Dee Ford, KPass, or Speaks drafted. Complete waste of time since they'll be ready to play about the time Mahomes is looking for a big payday (which I wouldn't at all be surprised if they Chiefs didn't pay, by the way).

And it's not my money, it's Clark's. The salary cap is an excuse teams use when they don't want to take risks. Teams that want players find ways to get it done.
Veach has done exactly that, sometimes even overpaying. He's either just doing his due diligence or the Seahawks asking price is so high it's not worth it.

O.city 09-24-2018 08:53 PM
Thomas is really really good. A legit single high safety thats a badass.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 08:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13760760)
Shit happens. Look at Luck right now and Indy.
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13760765)
Windows can close fast.
This x 2.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 08:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13760776)
Veach has done exactly that, sometimes even overpaying. He's either just doing his due diligence or the Seahawks asking price is so high it's not worth it.
There's no asking price too high, sorry.

That's where we differ. I look at this last draft and I see nothing but failure. Thomas is a known quantity. I'd give our entire 2018 draft for him and not even think about it. The good news is that it won't take our entire draft. It might take a Breeland Speaks and an Armani Watts.

TOTALLY worth it.

RunKC 09-24-2018 08:55 PM
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Chief Roundup 09-24-2018 08:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13760736)
Well, I'm just not really all that pragmatic about it. Mahomes is having an historic season. I don't care what they want or what he wants, give them both whatever it takes and get it done.
Damn dude. By the way you are acting I guess you think that Mahomes is just a flash in the pan. That he can never have another successful season that could propel us to a SB.
I noticed earlier that you alluded to the unknowns of future seasons. There are unknowns in the future of this season as well.
You have come across as give me a SB this year ramifications be damned. As if any team has ever "bought" a SB.
We have stars that will need to be paid very nicely starting this off season. Players like Fuller, Jones, Hill and Ragland not to mention that we are going to have to do something with Ford and Houston then there will also be FA and the draft.
I am glad that our GM doesn't think like you are currently.

Sassy Squatch 09-24-2018 08:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13760782)
There's no asking price too high, sorry.

That's where we differ. I look at this last draft and I see nothing but failure. Thomas is a known quantity. I'd give our entire 2018 draft for him and not even think about it. The good news is that it won't take our entire draft. It might take a Breeland Speaks and an Armani Watts.

TOTALLY worth it.
Sorry, but I really don't care about your opinion in this situation. I'm just looking at it in terms of what Veach does. I personally wouldn't mind throwing the late 1st the Seahawks way for him, but its painfully obvious that just isn't happening.

Mother****erJones 09-24-2018 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13760765)
Windows can close fast.

Go for it.
This has been my point especially with 2 2s. Earl Thomas is a HOF safety. Berry is one as well. He comes back and you have bookend HOF safeties.

O.city 09-24-2018 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13760786)
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He's doing his best to force his way out. Crazy.

Sassy Squatch 09-24-2018 08:58 PM
Keep it up, bro. Drive that price down.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 13760794)
Damn dude. By the way you are acting I guess you think that Mahomes is just a flash in the pan. That he can never have another successful season that could propel us to a SB.
I noticed earlier that you alluded to the unknowns of future seasons. There are unknowns in the future of this season as well.
You have come across as give me a SB this year ramifications be damned. As if any team has ever "bought" a SB.
We have stars that will need to be paid very nicely starting this off season. Players like Fuller, Jones, Hill and Ragland not to mention that we are going to have to do something with Ford and Houston then there will also be FA and the draft.
I am glad that our GM doesn't think like you are currently.
That's fine, we don't agree.

I don't think Mahomes is a flash in the pan. I just don't gamble with the future when I have a winner right in front of me.

I said earlier:

When a guy is up $50 on the nickel slots, he cashes out and moves on. The guy that continues to put in nickels thinking he can increase his winnings is the guy that ends up going home broke.

And if they pay Ragland, they're even worse at evaluating talent than I thought. He's freaking awful.

mr. tegu 09-24-2018 08:59 PM
I am fine with a trade and sign for a few reasons. First of all, if we are trading picks we aren’t trading anything we have invested in already. Big difference from baseball trades so that removes some of the risk from my perspective.

Next, any pick we would make if we don’t have him, would likely be until a few years before that player has a significant impact. So at least two years of this offense wouldn’t benefit from the pick most likely.

Lastly, I think you have to consider the wider landscape. The teams we may be competing against on the AFC side are either very vulnerable with declining QBs or teams with QBs not there yet. In a few years who knows what other QBs or teams will emerge. I am convinced our window won’t go anywhere as long as we have Mahomes but right now the window looks about as open as it possibly could given the QBs in the AFC right now.

O.city 09-24-2018 09:00 PM
I wonder if you could get him with a 3 year deal?

Sassy Squatch 09-24-2018 09:02 PM
Bright side of things, we might not be THAT far apart since we've apparently had open dialogue since August, and he seems determined to get out now.


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