The next announcement that comes from 1 Arrowhead Way should be something along the lines of:

Due to public outcries, the Chiefs franchise stands ready to act independently and in advance of the NFL's decision, and that will be a two preseason game suspension for Mr. Hill and mandatory monitored anger management classes, but only when credible charges are files against Mr. Hill by the loony JOCO DA.

That puts the NFL "on the clock" for making a counter decision, and might serve to fire up the idiots who crave a public crucifixion (which is fun to watch).

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hit: Daniel Jeremiah as the lead draft analyst on the NFL Network <br><br>Miss: The NFL Network not mentioning the Tyreek Hill news <a href="https://t.co/WDfhfLzE1E">https://t.co/WDfhfLzE1E</a></p>&mdash; Sports Illustrated (@SInow) <a href="https://twitter.com/SInow/status/1122621534961590272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

There’s nothing to talk about because he good.

All we know is what she SAYS he said.

And she's a ****ing liar.

Keyword here: 'suggests'

So until the facts come out:shrug:

Hey Donger, what do the DA,KC Star, KCTV5 and CPS have in common with the Mueller investigation ? :D

Donger my man, what do Trump and Hill have in common in these investigations with "no direct evidence" as of yet?

Lets just drag their names through the "mud in the court of public opinion" since there is no direct evidence and to the point we'll even screw up the Chiefs and their draft "on purpose" because we(DA and KCTV5)have known and had this audio for some time waiting to drop it at the perfect moment(right b4 the draft) for release because we are that spiteful because we know we cannot bring charges on flimsy evidence(audio) but we will go through the motions once again(DA to save face) and not bring charges once again. :rolleyes:

This is what makes it all so confusing.

The tape doesn’t exonerate her of anything. If she made any type if statement to the police this opens her up to all kinds of legal problems. Again, if she were just covering why make this tape and if she didn’t want him to get off why not lie and say he did it rather than lie and say he didn’t?

Maybe the insurance was financial rather than legal? I don’t know.

Uh, Tyreek said "you should be scared of me too, bitch."

He's human trash.

I think we can all agree that Tyreek is not the most orotund rhetorician in the house.

FAX

Know what I'm saying?

FAX

if he gets put on the NFL exempt list those rights carry over.

See: Gordon, Josh RE: Cleveland Browns tenure

I agree with this but a good defense attorney will come up with ten alternatives for what he meant besides threatening violence.

The earth stood still....I agree with Clay for the first time

He has a point, dude is jacked

LMAO

You, I, and half this forum have said far worse. I mean come ON.

I called my a **** and a bitch before.

We still ****.

Doing it to someone in real life, someone you have ****ing BEATEN and yet is still with you....is completely different.

I’d like to point out that he actually said dumb bitch. He used an adjective which I respect!

There's no doubt that Tyreek is human trash, but the Chiefs are playing this the right way.

I don't care if Tyreek ever plays for the Chiefs again, but he damn well shouldn't play for anyone else either.

The Chiefs have developed a top 5 WR from virtually nothing and they shouldn't be the ones penalized because he's scum.

The media like Florio, LaCanfora are just huge hypocrite assholes, but the Chiefs shouldn't cave to any pressure. This was a guy who was going to get handed a 100 million dollar extension 2 months ago and the Chiefs should handle this however they see fit.

There's no urgency for them to act now. There's no football being played for 3 months. They have time and they should use their time to make sure whatever move they make regarding Tyreek is the right one. There's zero benefit for the Chiefs to cut him immediately.

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It is different. I have a really hard time finding sympathy for Crystal Esipinol here though. Sympathy the first time? Absolutely, but she stayed in this situation despite all that.

Maybe so, but I'll wager that type of conversation is probably a part of their everyday vocabulary, and laced with a good deal of back and forth.

"Your son is terrified of you"

You should be terrified of me too, dumb bitch"

Just a part of everyday conversation

It has to be. When he called her a dumb bitch she wasn’t even mad. I bet this is regular. I wonder what she calls Tyreek?

I wonder how good her pussy must be since he’s stayed with her through it all

She wasn't mad? Hmm, I wonder why? Couldn't be the fact that he beat her into the hospital and she's afraid of him, now could it? Naw.

In THAT "kill it with fire" relationship? Yes. All day. Every day. And thrice on Wednesday.

ROFL

I'm shocked she recorded the conversation and then shared it. She played a dangerous game there and ultimately she'll end up losing because she admitted to lying.

I would agree that these conversations among pro football players and their significant others are far more common than we realize. These guys aren't wired right. Some haven't ever been taught how to love, how to care. Using violence to command respect is something he probably learned from his old dad. The cycle has to stop for the kid though. He's 3 but he won't remember this event in 15 years if his father never does it again. Tyreek needs rehabilitation for that to happen. Severe rehabilitation and to get away from Crystal. They are poison together.

You think this is bad? If you with a Latina this stuff happens every single day. Comes at you with a knife

In THAT "kill it with fire" relationship? Yes. All day. Every day. And thrice on Wednesday.

Damn I'd sure like to hear the rest of that conversation! KCTV 5's scripted audio bullet doesn't get the job done for me.

Their every day conversation? I don't think it's happening every day, but in toxic violent relationships, similar conversations happen.

She's a ****ing idiot. She'd rather "ride for Tyreek" than get her son out of an abusive household if these allegations are true.

Nevermind the fact she stayed with him after the first incident.

Dude, I live in the southwest. I KNOW. And you don't have to wiretap Tyreek Hill to get a conversation that sounds disrespectful as all hell between two young idiots of ethnic background.

Agreed.

No team should benefit from this situation.

The damage is done, now the Chiefs have to find a way to make sure it's not worse.

Cutting him only makes the situation worse.

Yep - Tyreek is a huge dirtbag, but she's in the same boat. I'm sure was violent with her prior to the arrest when she was pregnant.

The child and the twins she's having only have a chance if both get massive amounts of help and never get back together.

Her pussy must be A1 for Tyreek to still be with her when he could have any girl he wants

Agreed. The Chiefs could help him with extensive counseling. His teammates and staff know him better than anyone. That matters in these situations. A positive support group helps.

If you're banging the drum for him to get cut, you're inviting this situation to happen again.

It's completely psychological. I don't think her pussy being "A1" has anything to do with it. It's a mental hold both have on each other that doesn't allow Tyreek or her to get someone else.

Reid should have a 1 on 1 with him. Like a father son thing.

I could lay out a few highly likely options for you, but I don't feel like getting banned for the sake of Crazy Cristal Espinal.

No. He needs to stay the **** out of it.

They're the Sid and Nancy of football.

Yay.

Tyreek probably has no family members he can trust right now. He needs a mentor. Idk who that is or who it could possibly be.

They (Crystal and the kids) would have had massive help if she wasn't such a crazy person and denied the 100M + contract this year... Her kids would have been set for life with the kind of child support she would have received, instead she'd rather take her chances on a possible unemployed Tyreek Hill and possible jail time herself.

She is dumber then a box of rocks.

So NFL says they will take action this week on Hill. That's good or bad. They could do a 4 game and then charges get handed down and it wont be as bad a suspension as it could be. (I'm in the group who says retain him because someone else will benefit of we cut)
But what has been done against Kraft , nothing from what I've heard yet. Charges werent and havent been filed against Reek but Kraft there were.

When did they say they are taking action this week? I don't think the NFL takes any action until the police investigation is completely wrapped up.

I'm thinking the Chiefs need to get with the league and find a way that Tyreek can be suspended for the entire year, or most of it, or something.

Spend that year rehabilitating his public image so when they bring him back in 2020 on a franchise tag, it's socially acceptable in the same vein as if he had been cut and gone to another team.

He has a good year and then they can probably sign him to a decent extension, though certainly it won't be the riches he desired before all of this.

Worst case scenario he gets tagged again.

So yea um Crystal could be looking at international charges....

Apparently recording a conversation in Dubai is punishable under law

Yep- they'd have all the financial help they could ever want.

It's crazy he was looking at 100 million and now he'll never come close to that.

Federal Law:

Article 378 of Federal Law No.(3) of 1987 of the Penal Code as amended by Federal Law No. 34 of 2005 specificall states that:

"A punishment of confinement and fine shall be inflicted on any person who attacks the sanctity of individuals' private or family life by committing any of the following acts in other than the legally permitted cases or without the victim's consent:

A: Eavesdropping or recording or transmitting by any system of whatever kind, any conversation held at a particular place or via the phone or any other set.

B: Picking up or transmitting by any system of whatever kind, a person's picture at a particular place.

If the acts referred to in the above two cases during a meeting within the hearing or sight of the person attending, their consent shall be required.” It is clear that Tyreek’s girlfriend violated the UAE’s Federal Laws for recording that conversation but KCTV5, I believe, is not authorized to release an illegally obtained conversation, especially one that was out of the United States jurisdiction!

If he's suspended for the entire season, Chiefs won't have to worry about the franchise tag, he'd play 2020 on the last year of his deal.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...this-week/amp/
My bad "likely" .... but still same thing applies... if they do what has happened to Kraft. It's not an on the field issue.

I have to admit, you're doing a GREAT job of thinking like a mature and rational woman.



Unfortunately, that doesn't apply here. CLEARLY.

If Tyreek did do this it would be wise for the Chiefs to not release him as he could go off the deep end and possibly kill Crystal. Stay on the team and go to meetings and get the help he needs. He better thank Clark Hunt, Coach Reid and Brett Veach at his HOF press conference

so 2019 wouldn't count?

Stay within the system. Keep his rights, let the NFL decide what to do with him. If the league allows him to play again, then figure out what you want to do at that point. He might get blacklisted anyway. But I wouldn't just release him to make a point. Might even try to help him rehabilitate. Doesn't mean I condone his actions in any way, and doesn't mean he ever plays a down here again.

But I don't have nearly as much invested in this shituation as the Chiefs do.

Imagine Watkins, Hill and Hardman all on the field together with D Rob and the Williams bros. Oh yea I forgot Kelce as well. We would be unstoppable

I sure it's only the Chiefs recently who have had 2 shitheads do things that are grounds for dismissal for things that the NFL would/will/has suspended players for. I haven't read the negotiated agreement but to me it seems to need a clause for a team to have a "right of first refusal" for situations like Hunt, Hill, Vick and others out there. Player does something bad enough to go to jail or have everyone screaming for his dismissal so team does. A year or two later after paying their penance they want back in football. It's seems to me that the team with the original "rights" to the player should get a chance to bring them back if desired. My mind isn't made up on if they deserve compensation if they go elsewhere or not but at least a chance to say stay or go.
I hope this is addressed in the next negotiations.

If one of the two parties is consenting recording, it’s legal evidence.

In this case, she was consenting.

Except I’m pretty sure Hill has no idea he was being recorded

That doesn’t matter. As long as she consents, it’s legal.

If the Chiefs or Tyreek's attorney hasn't already, they should have her drug tested or find anything in her past to discredit her. She's clearly not a sane person.

I think his past of beating her when she was pregnant kind of outweighs whatever they would find it her past. Just a hunch

It doesnt matter. It is the same thing here in Canada. If one of the two is part to the conversation and records, it is valid evidence.

Thing is, usually in court you would have her acknowledge that she is indeed the one taking part to the conversation and then you could file it as evidence. But if she denies, there's surely another way.

He didn't consent! My bad.....you're right!

Maybe, maybe not. Up to this point, she hasn't been an adversary to Tyreek. If she decides to flip on him, then all the gloves are off so you might as well put the shovel to work now.

Probably.

I know this is a long shot, but if they can make her out to be crazy (clearly why would anyone torch 100m when that money could take care of your babies) by digging up her past and facts to this case. Make it sound like Tyreek's therapy has been working and that he been a good father this whole time, and has tried to save the relationship for the kid's sake. But, it obvious at this point the relationship can't be saved after the shit she has pulled, and work out a custody battle based on her insane ways. Maybe the attorney can get evidence that she's the culprit and felt the DA was giving her heat, so she tried to spin it so Tyreek was not only the bad person in this case, but she didn't want him to receive a dime of that money.

Of course if he's really guilty the pitch forks need to come out, but if he's innocent I'd want to turn over every leaf I could and dump her in the process.

Racist.

Nothing is clear in this situation

So Florio says KC is basically shit for not cutting him yet the past couple days, but now he’s saying it might be the right thing to wait it out? The ****?

Kinda ****ed up KCTV5 alerted Crystals family and lawyers ���������� about the video then Tyreeks lawyer 6 hours later

Unacceptable.

Sounds like they were making sure she had a chance to not be with him when he found out.

Totally understandable with what he's admitted to doing in the past.

Florio did not think this through like a 'real journalist' would have. What a shock.:rolleyes:

Florio needs to go work for TMZ.:shrug:

The dude really needs to just stop talking about it. He is a ****ing idiot.

She didn't record it to extort/manipulate him BEFORE he gets paid...remember they arent married. If he breaks up with her...he's only financially responsible for his children. They weren't together when this whole thing started...and IMO, part of the motivation in the first place. I'm sure his contract would have a lot of caveats..and out clauses. The whole "if you dont support ME also...My friend will release a copy to the press and neither of us will have money. I'll ruin your career...and you'll still have to support the children." or it could be just to control/manipulate him. Which option do think Hill would take? Neither one of these people are very bright..

It's why the timing of the release made no sense. If she has dirt on Hill and covered for him...and they just received a "no charges" verdict...there would have been no point in covering for him in the first place... if she was planning on releasing a tape. She could have just given it to the DA from the beginning.

Her friend gave KCTV5 the recording...and sold her out.

It happened in Dubai. It's International law, not Kansas state law or even US Federal law.

Different ballgame.

Different league.

Different sport.

I’ve been to Dubai. They don’t **** around