And Brian Westbrook? We’re talking about a totally different team/offense and a long time ago.

Kareem Hunt had 14 TD’s in 2018 in 11 ****ing games. Shady’s ****ing corpse had 5 last year. Those are the examples that are relevant, but you’re choosing to ignore. This offense is so good while creating so many scoring opportunities and Andy loves to use his backs in the red zone. What do you not get about that?

This is too easy man. You put on your dumbass hat today.

I recognize now that we're arguing semantics. It's ****ing stupid and we will never agree on that. I should never have even mentioned it, but I was upset because I was sure to frame my original argument carefully as to not imply that it couldn't be done, only that it was unlikely. Then today you jumped into the whole "VIrUs ThInKs ItS cOmPlEtElY uNrEaLiStIc" shit, which is absurd because I never went even close to that far.

I'm choosing to put that to bed because it's ugly and no one reading this thread wants to see you and I go back and forth on ****ing dictionary definitions.. but we can debate the original point again, like I said. So let's do it. Give me your piece.

I already did. Take your 2nd L and go home.

Mhmm. In 2018, Kareem was a vet. What's more relevant would be his rookie season in which he only scored 11 TDs as the featured back. Took him 300+ touches to scored 11 TDs.

Shady had 5 TDs on 130 touches. He was actually pretty efficient last season. His big issue was ball security. You'd need to more than double his touches to get to 11 TDs. Are you really expecting CEH to get 275 touches this season?

JFC, stop talking about anything before Mahomes. This offense with Mahomes creates way more scoring opportunities. I don’t care if Kareem was a vet, he was just as good as a rookie so that’s a weak ****ing argument if I’ve ever seen one. Also, is it hard to ****ing believe that CEH can double what 2019 McCoy did? That’s the point of bringing him up. He’s a corpse and he got half of what you’re saying is unrealistic for a guy that is much more talented and dynamic at this point of McCoy’s career.

It creates more opportunities but there are also more mouths to feed. CEH is in line behind Hill, Kelce, D Will, Watkins, and Hardman. If our sixth-ish option on offense scores 11 TDs then the league is ****ed.

He could do it, but I think he’ll need to get close to doubling McCoy’s touches in order to do so.

Anyone buying that this team would have taken Ruiz instead if he was available? So says the Saints assistant GM.

Listening to the call to Clyde after we drafted him- the Chiefs got their guy.

RB was a big hole in this offense- and now will be a two-headed monster that will command respect from defenses.

No, but I believe that other teams believed that.

I wanted Justin Jefferson but that clearly wasn't going to happen after his 40. Then I wanted Aiyuk but he wasn't falling to us. I wanted Murray or Arnette too.

The fact that the Chiefs got their guy when all these players were gone is amazing. I think people will forget who was actually available when CEH was taken.

I've seen people upset that the Chiefs took CEH over Xavier McKinney. A friggin safety? And one that CEH PERSONALLY EMBARRASSED in the LSU / Alabama game.

Man I'm happy about this and will forever chalk up a win for Dane on talking us all into running back in the first as a concept.

CEH embarrassed a TON of guys that are going to be drawing NFL paychecks in that 'bama game. He had more spectacular games here and there, but nothing that more demonstrated how his strengths will translate at the next level.

He probably cost Trevon Diggs $1 million on his rookie contract. If the dude goes 6 spots sooner he's a million dollars richer. I gotta think a couple teams in the early 2nd happened to see one of the half-dozen times CEH put the kid in a body bag and thought "well maybe we'll move him down a spot or two on our big board..."

All it took was one spot further down the board to the team that would've otherwise taken him (with a whole lot of secondary needy teams picking at the top of the 2nd) to have nerfed that 1st contract in a big way.

CEH just murdered Diggs that day.

Given that EB was advocating trading up for CEH, I'd say no.

I don't even think Ruiz was the best center in the draft.

I think Denver got a better center in Cushenberry in the third round which is why you don't draft a center in the first.

That’s probably why he wanted CEH. Shady was good for the first month and then his age started to creep up and the decline started. Thompson and Darrel Williams were not that good when they went in.

Our offense put up 31 points on a damn good defense and Damien Williams was the biggest reason. You just can’t cover them all no matter what defense you have in today’s game.

Now that CEH and Williams are there it’s impossible to stop us bc there’s always going to be a RB on the field making LB’s miss in the receiving game and busting enough runs to make the defense respect our running game.

People are laughing at Denver and Oakland for loading up on offensive skill players, but honestly what choice do they have? They know more than anyone that no matter what defense they have they aren’t stopping us from scoring 30 unless injuries occur.

The only way to beat us is to pray your red zone defense can hold our offense to some FG’s and your offense scoring at least 30 for a chance. There’s just no other way.

Steeler fans on twitter saying they have a better chance of going to the SB because they have such a good defense.

It's like they didn't watch the Ravens or 49ers at all.

Pittsburgh is a dying dynasty, they're circling the drain big time

Their QB is washed. It doesn’t matter how good their defense is with no QB in this NFL.

It took a lot of fortunate breaks for Denver to overcome Peyton Manning’s horrendous play in 2015. 1-Pittsburgh’s defense won’t be as good as that Denver team; 2-There was no Patrick Mahomes with this many weapons and this coaching staff in 2015

The truth is neither was great. I'm glad this staff appears to know what it wants in OL and acquires them accordingly.

elway drafts like he's reading a Lindy's.

That's a scheme thing, Ruiz is a lot more athletic so if your system is about pulling and trapping and all that he's going to be a much better fit. Matt Hennessey is also a lot more athletic than Cushenberry also but it's about fits.

That's a good point that I hadn't thought about much

Maybe. IIRC, Big Ben had been putting off surgery on his throwing elbow for a while before he injured it last season. He could come back with a better arm than he had back in 2018. If that happens, he could be one of the top 5 QBs in the AFC.

No Antonio Brown no Bell. Trying to force Juju into an X position. I don't have faith

James Washington miiiight be a badass, though. And James Conner is a damn good RB in his own right when healthy. Throw Diontae Johnson in there with Eric Ebron and Ben has as many weapons to work with as he's had in a bit. He may not have the premier top end that he had with Brown, but that's a LOT of numbers to throw at the problem.

If they've got him back there throwing 650 times like he was in 2018, there's the potential for another 5k yard season.

If Roethlisberger fails it will be on Roethlisberger, IMO.

Don’t forget about Claypool. McFarland could make some plays early on too.

The Steelers, like the Chiefs now, will never be short on talent at the skill positions because they’re constantly drafting and developing.

Shit - I was gonna mention him then went down the "well are they playing him at TE?" rabbithole when I remembered Ebron and wrote about him instead.

Yeah, the Steelers have pass catchers.

Speaking of which, is there any doubt that the Chiefs will draft a WR in the 1st 2 rounds next year?

The class looks as good as last years, and I know it’s hard to believe, but may even be a little better. I can’t wait to see who we pair up with Hill and Hardman next year. It’s going to be fun.

And an elite defense. Depends on Big Ben but if he’s healthy, I think they are better than Baltimore.

I disagree.

Ruiz would've been a perfect fit, and probably a guy you build the line around for ten plus years. The leader up front. The GUY.

That's the guy I wanted there. Perfect fit, just like Clyde is a perfect fit.

I've got no issues with how it went down. I'm happy to have Edwards-Helaire, and I have every confidence he'll be awesome.

But Ruiz would've been a perfect fit and probable perennial pro-bowler in Andy's scheme too.

I think that Reid and Mahomes love what Damien Williams did in the playoffs, because obviously.

But there were 3 separate times last year where Mahomes threw a TD pass to Williams in the end zone, with one being in the SB, where Williams made the absolute most piss poor attempt to catch the ball.

All three were on almost exactly the same route, too. All three of those passes would have been actual touchdowns if it had been Kareem Hunt. I know it sounds crazy, but I really feel like Mahomes was pissed off each time Damien whiffed on these passes.

Mahomes looked about as irritated as he ever gets on those plays. I used to have notes from the all-22 film, but after the SB I tossed it because it didn't matter, that had the details of the games and plays.

That is why I think that CEH was a target, in my opinion.

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If Big Ben returns to form, the Steelers are absolutely a contender to be dealt with.

I have serious suspicions he's done.

BUT-if there was a lingering problem he wasn't getting fixed to stay in, and it is now, then yeah, The Steelers will be back in the hunt.

Wow. You smashed?

BR just needs to be average on offense for them to be a tough team to play. I hope the Steelers offense returns to form or something close to it though. It will benefit the Chiefs to have the Ravens and Steelers beat the shit out of each other for two games this season.

I'd really love to see the plays you are talking about here.

It certainly would up the Ravens' strength of schedule.

Pittsburgh has the personnel to hold up against the Ravens' run game. If they can get a bit more production out of the offense, they could challenge Baltimore.

to stay in (the line-up)

and it is fixed (the lingering injury that's been rumored)

sentence was a little confusing, I guess.

And yes, I was smashed.

:thumb:

Yeah, I feel like Williams is actually a pretty good receiving back on swings/wheels. Where he doesn't excel as much as CEH is when he has to put his foot in the ground and change direction.

So a typical 'arrow route' that you'll see in Madden (stab route, angle route, whatever you want to call it) that has the RB changing direction hard and cutting over the middle - those aren't things that Williams typically seems to do terribly well. But man, he's really damn good on the wheel routes and no worse than average on simple flat/flare routes.

Now you try to line him up in the slot and give him a full route tree, he'll come up lacking. That's something CEH seems more capable of than Williams. But for the majority of the routes most RBs run, Williams is more than capable. But/for the fact that we didn't have a conventional 2 down RB, Williams skill-set would've put him in a 3rd down RB role. You don't do that with a guy that can't catch the ball out of the backfield.

Again - I feel like this is another example of running down Williams to boost the CEH pick and it's just not necessary. The idea that Williams isn't a well above average pass-catching back simply isn't supported by what we saw out of him or why he was brought here to begin with and initially asked to do. Williams is, at worst, a good 3rd down back mis-cast as an every down player. He most assuredly isn't some slug in the passing game who's indifference required we spend a 1st rounder on a RB to replace.

Veach and even Dorsey have shown in the past that they're not afraid to pass completely on strong and deep positions in a particular draft if there are other players they like better. I imagine that was the case this year, where all of the WRs kept pushing down other players they liked better, so they took those guys instead.

I wasn't pissed about them doing it this year, but I have been critical of them in the past (like in 2014 and a couple of those super deep CB years). However, now I may have to rethink that. There's something to be said for a do-the-opposite strategy when it comes to things like a draft. When other teams zig, you zag. It frees up your strategy and makes it so you're not always trying to predict the tier drop offs.

Of course, I don't think they're doing it on purpose necessarily. It's probably just coincidence.

I can recall atleast 2-3 plays last season where the ball hit Williams square in the back because he didn't turn back fast enough. Maybe a lack of communication or chemistry. I am hoping Deandre Washington sees some meaningful reps. Having watched him and Mahomes in college, I feel he can be effective.

I can think of one that went off his hip and another off the RB's back that was Darwin Thompson.

But man, sometimes that shit happens to everyone. The other team draws an NFL paycheck as well and sometimes they just screw stuff up for you.

To echo other posters, I'd kind of like to know the plays you're talking about.

I think Williams is pretty damn good as a receiving back. Two plays jump out in particular. One is in that 2018 game against the Ravens, when Williams almost didn't see the pass coming to him on 4th down to score. If he whiffs that, then the game is over. Chiefs lose. That catch and run was waaaay harder than it looks simply because it was a short pass. The other one was the 1st TD against the Texans in the playoffs. It's not an astounding jaw-dropping feat of athleticism that he demonstrated, nor was 2nd down in the 2nd quarter a particularly clutch moment, but it was still a VERY awkward place to catch the football. He had to keep running to make the play effective-- he couldn't stop and turn around for the ball. He catches it against the side of his body after just a split second of turning his head while still running. A very cool play, and both of them are plays that not every RB in the NFL can do.

You're probably right about it being Darwin Thompson and not Damien Williams.

I will try to go back and figure out which games, but all 3 were passes to the back right corner of the end zone, just like the one he said he couldn't see in the SB. I should have kept all my all-22 notes, but throwing them away was kind of my symbolic gesture saying that nothing else matters because we won the Super Bowl, we made it.

If you watch the play in the SB closely, I don't think he lost it, I think he just gave up on the play. On one of the plays during the season he sticks his hands out for the ball, but he had a serious case of alligator arms, which was weird because he was in no danger of being hit because he was about to run out of the back of the end zone. Mahomes looked very......frustrated or irritated is the best way I can describe it.

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Those were both excellent catches, no doubt. I am not saying he can't catch the ball out of the backfield. When Mahomes puts the ball right on him, he catches it. I was saying that after each of the plays where he didn't catch the passes in the end zone, Mahomes looked very frustrated with Williams.

I originally said that I believe that is why Mahomes and Reid may have targeted CEH in the draft, because if they were completely satisfied with Williams, the team would have probably looked to fill a different position.

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If it's truly a lack of communication or chemistry, that isn't likely to change by bringing in a couple new guys on a likely-shortened offseason.

I'm really not even convinced that's the issue anyway. For all we know, Pat could have been frustrated with himself or the situation as a whole.

CEH and Washington could prove to be more natural receivers than D Will, but personally I think he's pretty good. The only time I've ever been pissed with him was the drop he had in the end zone of the 2018 AFCCG against the Pats. It's been a while and I won't rewatch that game so maybe I'm even remembering it wrong, but from my memory it seemed like he didn't give max effort and just sort of nonchalantly cradled the ball in, which allowed the defender a chance to knock it away. I think we had to settle for a field goal on that drive which could have changed the outcome of the game.

I’m pretty sure Mahomes overthrew him or something. Can’t remember exactly, but I remember it being on Mahomes.

Darwin Award Thompson should never see the field again as a Chief.

Williams has a ton of talent, which is why he became the starting back at Oklahoma and spent four years with the Dolphins after being signed as an undrafted free agent but unfortunately, the man just can't stay healthy.

My memory was that they weren't on the same page. I think Mahomes was expecting him to take the route toward the flag and Williams had flattened it out.

Happened with Kelce a few times as well and I don't see arguments that Kelce is an indifferent receiver.

Just not a fair argument, IMO.

I have a couple memories. They could be fudged, but one is the overthrow. From my memory, that was down the right side of the field. I felt like it was either a Pat overthrow or they just weren't on the same page. Possible missed opportunity but I wasn't upset about that one.

The one I'm thinking of was also in the back of the end zone, but to the left side of the field to Mahomes. Maybe left of center. That one was dropped in to Williams' hands perfectly and the defender was able to reach in at the last second and knock it out because Williams didn't bother to secure it.

I'm signing up for GamePass now because I'm curious if my brain just made up some shit to be pissed about. I'm having technical difficulties but I'll report back when I get to the bottom of this.

Jesus Christ. That is so savage. LMAOLMAO

Weirdly, the same exact play happened in the 2018 AFCCG and the 2019 Super Bowl (those games are reduxes of each other).

Patrick missed the one against the Patriots, then took a hero ball sack that knocked the Chiefs out of field goal range.

Williams missed the one against the 49ers, but Patrick threw the next passes away under duress and settled for three.

Williams has taken a lot of heat for the Super Bowl miss (he couldn’t find the ball). It was honestly his only off play of the Super Bowl, and it’s odd that he’s taken as much heat for it as he has (especially since he was basically our co-MVP the rest of the game). As a point of comparison, no one has dogged Kelce for his 2 piss easy drops against the Texans (as they shouldn’t. If you add the PI’s - how many yards did Kelce account for in that game - 170? With 3 TD’s?)

I've never seen a team play tighter than KC played in that 1st quarter against Texas.

3 drops on 3rd down? Did they end up with 4 by the end of the half?

Kelce had 2, Robinson had 1 and I think he actually had 2.

It was just a goddamn clownshow.

Was this maybe one of them?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No stat really does a great job with quarterbacks because of plays like this. Absolutely beautiful throw, no dice.<br><br>Plays like this screw with even the most in-depth stats, like EPA/play or adjust net yards per attempt, or QBR, and I don&#39;t know of a way to fix that. <a href="https://t.co/4kO4QLKCz6">pic.twitter.com/4kO4QLKCz6</a></p>&mdash; Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/1261368999004327937?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Looks like Williams was interfered with to me. Ran a fine route, got separation and tried to make a play on the ball but the defender got into his body and kinda pulled his arms down.

And if he didn't, still didn't look like any kind of effort/communication problem. That's not an easy catch with a guy coming over your back for even a WR to make. The focus and hand/eye coordination required to track that ball all the way is pretty intense.

No, that was not one of them. They were all in the right corner. When I review the all-22, I usually just take notes for myself, because I am just an average fan who never played, but has studied the game for over 30 years. And because I never played I usually keep those notes for myself unless I notice something specific.

Like, in the 2018 season when Watkins was out injured, versus when he was in the game but not getting the ball, it was very obvious how much he influenced the defense even when he wasn't getting the ball. So, I said so in some threads.

The only reason I said something about these 3 plays is because when a player misses on a play in almost the exact same way, it sticks out. The play in the SB was the 3rd of those plays.

And I know he said he didn't see the ball, but to me he just made a poor effort, kinda easing up after getting held. Was he grabbed? Yeah, but I still think he should have caught the ball. I know that may sound harsh, but because I had seen the previous plays where he made poor efforts in that same part of the end zone, I didn't give him the benefit of the doubt.

But, I threw away my notes because none of that matters at all anymore because we won the Super Bowl! I didn't mean to start any shit, I was just speculating as to why they targeted a pass catching specialist at the running back position. I am in no way saying that CEH is just a pass catcher, I think he is a complete player and an absolute home run of a draft pick.

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This is the play I was misremembering lol

I just watched the broadcast version on GamePass (that shit is awesome, by the way) and Williams comes off as too nonchalant for me. It was good defense, for sure, but I felt Damien too casually extended his arms for the catch. Looks like he short arms it a bit.

Didn't like the look of it.

Well we all have our own version of events, I suppose.

Looks to me like he was making a play on the ball, the contact put his balance off and he tried to make a lunge for the ball while also using his arms to keep from eating shit outright.

That was gonna take an play that I just don't think you can expect any RB to make. Most WRs struggle to control their body well enough to corral that guy.

Maybe if he lays out for it to try to get just a little more separation and let him turn into the ball he can snag it, but again - dude's still a runningback. And being a good pass catching back still doesn't make him a great wide receiver. Ain't a lot of Marshall Faulk sorts out there with the ability to play tailback OR slot receiver.

Use the guy right and he will thrive, trying to use him as a line banger....nope!

He appears kinda cheeky, curious if he has a problem with his weight.

Looks like Tarzan.

Plays like Jane.

Here it is, your first look at CEH in action for the Chiefs

https://www.nfl.com/videos/madden-20...-on-the-chiefs

Underwhelming. He's much better in real life. Of course, it is Madden.

jump cut should have been more devastating.

Those pass catching skillz looked pretty sweet...

I’m convinced that Veach’s talk about not getting many yards on early downs to help our offense was directly linked to the 2018 Broncos game at Denver. Just watching this game and Kareem did so much to help our offense that game.

We were getting at least 4 yards a pop nearly every carry.

I LOVE CEH, but Veach could have kept Hunt.

Getting yards on early downs is more 225ish banger back, hmmmm?

Will CEH surpass 800 receiving yards 2020?

Just shut up.

That guy is gonna fumble his way out of the league.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#39;ve seen some worried about Clyde Edwards-Helaire&#39;s pass blocking ability, but the Chiefs were 28th in percentage of passes with an RB pass blocking (13%) last year. Not sure that&#39;s going to be a problem at all for CEH. Ke&#39;Shawn Vaughn and Cam Akers will be tested more often. <a href="https://t.co/qLRcyXEmao">pic.twitter.com/qLRcyXEmao</a></p>&mdash; Hayden Winks (@HaydenWinks) <a href="https://twitter.com/HaydenWinks/status/1261317917074952195?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Not to mention CEH staying in to block often would be a waste of his talent.

Eh.

If it gives Mahomes another 1/2 second to find Hill, Kelce, Watkins or Hardman, it's a fine use of your RB.

Ultimately I think the Chiefs kept their RBs out of pass blocking situations by necessity as much as design. They just weren't very good at it so why set them up to fail?

I'd like to see a significant improvement in what we've gotten there of late. If the dude isn't a credible threat as a pass blocker then you kinda have an idea what you'll need to do to address him. But if there's as good a chance that he'll stay in and block as there is that he'll go into the pattern, it makes you a little more reticent to blitz. And if that's going to be the case, he's gonna need to be a good run blocker.

But he's a sturdy guy who shouldn't lose the leverage battle often. He has enough mass and want to. The technique is easy enough to teach since you're really just trying to slow a guy up rather than stonewall him (JC was able to learn it and he's smaller than CEH and as sharp as a hammer).

I don't think there's any benefit to hand-waiving it. Predictability is a bad thing and if he's routinely out in the pattern because he's an unreliable blocker, that's just one more thing that DCs will be able to use as a static point when trying to gameplan.

It's something he'll just have to learn. I'm not too worried about it.

Andy's screen game is gonna be optimal with this dude. It's gonna be just hard a shit to handle. You can get Hill and Watkins and Hardman running everyone off to clear space and drop a screen right in behind them. That makes for an easy 15 yard gainer.

I'm inclined to agree with you. I'm just saying we shouldn't just say it won't matter.

And yeah, I feel like we've shelved the RB screen game since we lost Charles. Even Hunt didn't seem to get all that much run there. And Andy is just a wizard when it comes to screen design.

He can do some really cool shit with the screen game and even that would be improved if you can put CEH having some nice pass rush reps on paper. If there's a higher chance of him staying in to block, then that delay he takes in the middle of the formation before sneaking out for an inside screen makes sense. You're not telegraphing it at that point and Mahomes can just flip that ball up and over the line with 15 yards of green and a convoy in front of CEH (because afterall, the rest of the weapons will mean you can't pack the box).

I’m not saying don’t ever leave him in to block. I’m saying if you are leaving him in to block often it’s a waste of his talent. I don’t see how you can argue that it’s not.

I mean, look at the teams at the bottom of that list. Teams with good receiving backs like the Chiefs, Chargers, Texans etc. clearly agree.

But nobody has the opportunity cost associated with a throw to the RB that the Chiefs do.

Any throw to CEH is at the expense of a target to a guy that's just more dangerous. And that's not a slight on CEH, it's a statement as to how dangerous the rest of the skill position players are. And frankly, those teams don't have nearly as important a guy to protect back there either. Not even the Texans (who are coached by a mouth-breathing idiot, so I'm not sure I'd lean to heavily into anything they do).

We had people advocating for a 1st round Center because "you have to protect the franchise!" - the idea being that anything to keep Mahomes upright is worthwhile. If keeping him in, say, 18-20% of the time yields a less predictable offense while getting Mahomes hit a couple times/gm less, I don't think that's a waste of his talent at all.

You're trading off some production from CEH in exchange for protecting your crown jewel and creating a little more production for higher efficiency downfield targets.

I don't think the Chiefs need to be leading the league there by any means, but I also don't think I want them in the bottom 1/3 either.

I'm excited for the fake screens.

You know, where they are so worried about the dump off that the defense scrambles as Mahomes sets up for the drop off, only to pump fake and then look deep to Hardman or Tyreek.

Maybe I'm just drawing a blank, but does Andy run any type of fake screens? I don't remember seeing any.

yes he has a fake TE Screen to a RB Screen on the other side. I dn the play, but i think they used it on Williams TD vs the patriots. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/nKLkj0FzoEo?start=594" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Sorry, I should have said "does Andy run any fake screens and then go deep" like the dude I was replying to suggested.

I think that TD to Williams was just a screen anyway. There's some misdirection with the play action and Mahomes rolling right with the Kelce option in the flat, but it looks like it was a designed screen all the way.

You can't really run anything more than a fake smoke screen and go deep as with screens you're having OL get out in front. That doesn't work very well.

That's what I'm getting at. In order to sell the screen you've gotta have OL moving, and when they start doing that you're not giving your QB time to sit back there and wait for someone to come open deep down field.

We could try something like a fake WR screen where the blocking WR just fakes going for a block and goes upfield instead, but I don't remember ever seeing Reid run one of those in his time here.

You know the mad scientist is drawing up some devious killer plays for the "The Fresh Prince of Helaire" involved.:D