I was watching Skip and Shannon earlier and they were talking about some of the 49ers saying they thought they were gonna fleece the Eagles until they lost their QB.

I think Carlos may have a big day, though not necessarily in the form of sacks/QB hits. But his length might be a factor vs. a shorter QB like Hurts, forcing errant throws, double clutches that destroy timing, and hopefully some tipped passes. Also, he's been pretty damned good vs. the run since week 10 or so, and that could be a big factor next Sunday.

And yeah, Gay and Bolton have to have huge games, both vs. the run and in coverage. Bot I also think we might see Cook on the field a lot more as our third S. Chenal might have a bigger role as well.

And I'm just hoping our defense can limit their rushing attack to anything under 4 yds/carry. Statistically when teams can do that to PHI, They've had a much tougher time earning a W. So 3.8yds/carry would be fine. Just don't let them average more than 4.

Line still at -1.5 Philly.

I remember reading in here some insane stat like only 3 times in the Mahomes era the Chiefs were underdogs?

Here's something to think about.

As much as the media is pumping up the Eagles, if KC could choose Eagles or to play the Bengals again to win the SB, how many think they would want to play the Bengals again? I don't think they would change it up.

Surprised there hasn’t been more national talk about Reid being fired by the Eagles. Haven’t heard much anyway.

Do we think he’s still bitter about it and it gives him a little extra motivation?

Don't see any evidence of it. He openly has nothing but love and respect for the PHI orgaization and the Lurie's. And he's returned to PHI several times to visit the team for various reasons. Plus, winning in the manner that he has since coming to KC and a SB ring probably have erased any remaining ill-will he might have had since he was fired, I'd imagine.

Probably quietly thanks them for getting him out of that shitty city

There's zero chance Andy is bitter at PHI.

One it was ancient history and two - he's got 3 Super Bowl appearances with the Chiefs. I doubt he really even thinks about Philly anymore, good or bad.

Might be the case, but he'd probably show the same level of respect even if he was seething inside. I'm betting he wants this one a little more than if it were any other team.

If Sal Paolantonio shows up, he's going to punch him.

Maybe. And I'd agree that Andy wants this one a bit more because that it his former team. I just don't think there's any bitterness involved. Heck, last season, iirc, he went back to PHI to attend some award/recognition ceremony for a former Eagles player of his. I'm pretty sure he wasn't invited to do anything at the event; he just wanted to be there for his player.

that doesn't sound like a guy that's harboring any ill-will.

I really doubt he's bitter. Think he was thrilled to move on, but sure I could see him being motivated to stick it to his old employer.

Well, the players didn't fire him. No coach is going to have resentment toward the players.

Funny thing is, the one who is talking about having a chip on his shoulder is Sirianni. He says he never wanted to leave KC because his wife lived here and had a nice job and all her friends/family were here.

As if he could've expected Reid to retain him on the new staff.

Nah. Too long ago. If the Chiefs played the Eagles in the SB in 2014 or 2015, then maybe. He also doesn't seem like a vindictive person.

As fas as I know, He has said nothing but nice things about anything associated with Philly. He may secretly hold some shit against the owner. Maybe Reid told him they needed an elite QB to win? Who knows what their private conversations were….

I’d just can’t believe Reid will go off on the owner publicly no matter what. That’s just not who he is.

Exactly.

They weren't keeping anybody that was part of the 2012 disaster.

Sal Pal disagrees.

https://youtu.be/ta1onS7VVGU

Andy is outwardly polite but I’m sure wants this one bad.

Ehhhh, that video after our game in Philly back in 2013 might say otherwise lol I think it was Sal Palantonio..? Reid does NOT like that ****ing guy.

But overall, I do agree that it's probably been too long for him to care so much. It was over a decade ago. He might feel a little extra sense of pride in sticking it to the organization that let him go, but I doubt he's putting in extra hours, obsessing over it.

Spags is going to attack this mother****er relentlessly. Blitz up front, press man with cover 2 shell in the back.

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Nice stat. I like this stat.

Because Andy stamped that conversation out almost immediately.

One of the first questions he was asked was about what it would be like to play Philly and all he did was talk about his respect for the city and the organization and blah blah blah.

There's just no meat on that bone, IMO.

I suppose it's possible Sneed doesn't clear the final phases of concussion protocol, but I find it unlikely. So it's weird to see discussion as if he is sure to miss it.

That's almost 10 years old man. I seriously doubt he's been harboring any ill will for 10 years.

Sirianni's rise is crazy to me. That dude must interview like a boss.

Gets an NFL job without anything better than WR coach at IUP on his resume. Then has 10 years as a low level assistant for largely non-descript units for various teams. Then somehow parlays that into an OC job where he is AGAIN mediocre yet turns that into a HC gig.

He seems respected by the Eagles and press but what in his resume kept getting him promoted? Just has to have aced the interviews.

He married a girl from KC?

Eric Bieniemy asks the same question.

The other day, somebody posted a schedule of the events this week in Glendale. I'm headed there tomorrow!! Can somebody repost that?? I can't find it

Spags is gonna rip out his spleen!!!!!

anyone got a live stream for opening night?

Madden simulation KC-31 PHI-17

This is Nut’s GDT again, right?

It better be!

100% pure NUT butter

Like what is about to be sprayed all over the Eagles’ No. 1 defense status.

Nice defense you go there. Would be a shame if someone … nutted … on it.

A reporter really asked Sirianni if the Super Bowl was a must win game.

I wish it were satire

:LOL:

It’s a good question. Hard to see them being Super Bowl champs if they don’t win this one.

'Hidden wins'

Madden 1-4 picking the correct SB winner.

Andy and the organization both knew it was time. The last year was really bad.

The media is really trying to manufacture an “Andy Reid unceremoniously fired Nick Sirianni” storyline from when Reid initially took over in KC.

That's good because it has now flipped. Eagles 31, KC-17.

I knew I should have copied & pasted. It boasted 70% accuracy. Now gone and replaced with opposite results. STRANGE

Lolz, and Sirianni just got done saying just how gracious and classy Andy was when he let him go back in 2012. Media does enjoy just making shit up.

Do the Eagles really have an advantage running the ball? Their ypc is identical to the Chiefs on offense, and their ypc given up on defense is worse. They rack up yards because they run on half their plays (4th) compared with 38 percent for KC (25th)

yeah, they do. That running attack is pretty sophisticated, much more so than their passing attack. Jalen is the key. As a runner, he changes the numbers, plus he's just really damned good at RPO/option plays, meaning he has an extremely good grasp of how the decision-making protocol works and processes that part of the game better than anyone. He's better at the decision-making portion than Lamar, I think. Thank God he's not nearly as fast.

I think Spags will have a good plan for slowing them down, but we don't want to get into a straight up open field battle with PHI and that running game, imo. They're just too good at it, and they have the horses. Gotta get them to be more pass-centric by mid-third quarter.

Teams are so even statistically overall, with our half yard per play advantage on offense offset by their defense. Both will move well between the 20s, I think it comes down to red zone and turnovers. That would have been a disadvantage for most of the season but in the last few games the D has only surrendered 44 percent TD rate compared with 66 for the season.

Now I know why I hate Eagles HC Nick Sarianni. He was assistant assistant coach during the Snott Piioli Era. Andy Reai cleaned house and we haven't looked back.

Kelce is a big part of that run game as well. I watched a show the other day that highlighted Kelce, pulling from center and destroying DEs and then on to the next level and pancaking LBs. It was very impressive.

Todd Haley gave him his first NFL job, with the Chiefs.

He sounds like a really good dude.

Yeah, I do think we'll be able to run on them to a certain degree. But the strength of the team goes through the air, so I doubt we'll just pin our ears back and try to bulldoze them. Unless we're late in the game with at least a 9 point lead. Then Andy might call a half dozen runs in a row. Might.

Not OUR Kelce, theirs. Not sure Ive seen a Center doing the things he was doing.

Right. Keep forgetting Jason's last name is kelce, lol.

Yeah, he's a difference maker. And you're right, he does a lot of things most Cs just don't or can't do. He's so versatile, probably from playing so many positions when he was younger. He just knows what the defense is thinking in every situation and moment. For instance, he played LB at one point, iirc, so he knows at a genetic level what LBs want to do and how they react to every situation. He also played FB, iirc.

Don't know if it would be a good idea to activate ole Shelton. Might need his big ass in coverage.

Sneed cleared concussion protocol today. That’s nice.

LFG

Like Chris Meck said before - USE A SPY on Hurts. STOP the run and keep their D on the field as long as possible. I want their D exhausted in the 4th quarter! We can do this! CHIEFS OR DIE! :thumb:

Mahomes got a long loud ovation on his first question. So loud he had to wait for a minute.

Lot of KC fans. Could feel like a home game

Pretty confident Spags will spy Hurts. The only real question is who exactly draws that duty. Bolton is the obvious choice, but Gay is so much more athletic, just not as savvy. I have a feeling Spags might rotate the duty among at least three players, just not sure who that third would be.

Lolz, okay which one of you guys is over on the Eagles board trolling them with the "it's rigged! It's all a conspiracy to have Mahomes win" shit?

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The Eagles have played no top shelf QB’s this year. They have not been challenged this year or in the playoffs. Hurt looked way too somber tonight on fun night.

Mahomes and Reid are going to bring this home.

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Reid isn’t bitter about Philly. It was a mutual split. He’d been there too long and he was shaking off some really bad memories of his son. He’s mentioned many times that the final years in Philly were very difficult because of it. Philly still has a lot of love for Reid… for a city that would boo mike Schmidt that says a lot.

Interestingly the chiefs haven’t played many dual threat QBs this year either. Some decently athletic QBs like burrow… some athletic QBs who can’t throw… but other than josh Allen nobody who can run like hurts.

But yeah of the two the eagles defense will have way more to prove given their qb schedule. Especially after coasting in the playoffs vs a pretty weak qb slate.

We know how to stop running quarterbacks. We force Hurts to beat us with his arm we got yhem beat.

Are Lavar Leaps still legal in this NFL? I know they banned them on Field goals but if the doodoo birds luneup in a scrum formation on 4th & 1 can Gay soar like a rainbow?!?

His last season or 2 were complete disasters. I remember when Juan Castillo( O-line coach) was made defensive coordinator by him. He also was dealing with a loss of a son around that time.

He had a 14 year tenure in Philly and failed to deliver a Superbowl. It was just time to move on. He knew it, Lurie knew it, and so did the fans.

He also had a hand in the Eagles Hiring Doug Pederson. Who went on to win the Eagles first Super Bowl.

It gets ridiculous. Andy didn't have anything against Nick. He just wanted his dude.

ESPN made it a clickbait headline. Sirianni then went on to compliment Reid profusely. They’re no better than trolls these days.

The Eagles defense could be one of the biggest paper tigers we've ever seen.

"Among the quarterbacks who finished top 10 in EPA per pass play this season, just three were on the Eagles’ schedule: Jared Goff, Trevor Lawrence, and Dak Prescott (whom the Eagles faced in only one of their two matchups against Dallas).

Goff and the Lions scored 35 points against the Eagles in Week 1. Lawrence and the Jaguars managed just 219 total yards, but bad weather was a big factor in that game. Prescott and the Cowboys totaled 419 yards and 40 points in Week 16."

Super Bowl Cheat Sheet: 25 Things You Need to Know About the Eagles and Chiefs

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The Ravens and Bills beat up lower teams and it showed up come playoff time. I still don't believe last year's Chiefs' team was all that. The Eagles playoff wins were not against impressive opponents either

Play contain. Stop the run. Make Hurts beat you with his arm.

Unload everything you have on offense.

Yeah, not sure using Week 1 results is a great measure as their defense would have improved since then. But on the flip side KCs offense has also improved and will be the most complex they face all year. Mahomes is also the best QB by far they have faced. I like KCs chances as long as Brown Jr/Wylie are competent.

Oof he's like discount Alex with that shoulder

In the 3 games since, I count 6 total completions over 10 yards.

I find it very hard to believe that arm could make a comeback if he falls behind.

Hurts is a phenomenal talent, and the Philly offensive line is fantastic. But... man. He's what, 4/20 throwing past 10 yards?

I think if you blitz him creatively, and pack the box, and bracket Brown, I simply don't think the Eagles can keep pace. Force Hurts to throw it past the shallow areas, and dare him to beat you with Smith and Goedert. I think those two are really good, and Hurts when healthy might be able to pull that off, still, because the team is legitimately that talented.

But if you lock up Brown and take away the shallow zones, you're forcing an injured Hurts to go deeper to two very-good-not-great targets and keep pace with Reid/Mahomes. I don't like their chances.

But it's all for naught if they plow us on the ground. Their offensive line is unprecedented in the things they can do on the ground -- this is superior to the Lamar Hunt Ravens and meaner than the Josh Allen Bills. They can run inside zone, weird options, manufactured runs for Brown, sweeps, downhill, everything. There is nothing they cannot do on the ground.

I just... I think the Chiefs are the most pragmatic, least dogmatic defense in the NFL, and I'm including the Patriots and Bengals in that assessment. They have talent at all three levels, and they have elite coaches at all three levels. And I just think, if you have a healthy LB corps and the DL is disciplined, the Eagles can get yards but they can't gash them. They have a ton of talent but will radically change schemes from game to game when Spags is in his bag. It wouldn't shock me to see 40 snaps for Brandon Williams, Clark playing 100% of the snaps, and Karlaftis' snaps reduced as he's inferior right now against the run compared to Danna and Dunlap.

If the Eagles cannot gash us on the ground, I think it's game over.

Because I don't think this Eagles defense is going to stop Mahomes from scoring 30. Hell no.

First of all, a pissed off Mahomes on one leg passed for 300 yards and two touchdowns on a fantastic, amorphous Bengals defense that's ingeniously schemed and built to stop him, to backup receivers. Now he's healthier, and he's playing a talented Eagles defense that almost entirely plays a static zone. Mahomes devours zone, Kelce devours zone, Andy Reid has a bust pre-carved in Canton thanks to zone. A static zone?

I don't even care that the Eagles have a fantastic secondary and a historically great passrush. Reid and Bienemy will make sure the protection packages are as good as any the Eagles have seen all year. I don't think they can bamboozle the Eagles like they did the 49ers earlier in the year because Fletcher Cox and Brandon Graham have seen it all. But Reid and Bienemy are going to have all kinds of charted up plays to keep the Eagles on their back heels down field. The interior line is going to be ready for the sheer force of the Eagles interior, and the fistfight there will be fantastic. Wylie will get plenty of help, and Mahomes will do the rest. And if the Eagles doesn't put him in the dirt in the first couple of drives, the Chiefs may not punt before halftime.

Chiefs are built for this game. Mahomes is ready for it. The Eagles with a healthy Hurts are a real problem, but with an injured Hurts, they are vulnerable against a smart defense.

I want to say it's an a TD game in favor of the Chiefs, assuming neither Mahomes or Hurts get further injured.

But, I mean. Even though these teams are evenly matched.... if the Chiefs are up 14 in the second half and Sirianni panics and airs out the ball, it could get ugly.

TL;DR: The Chiefs have more solutions for the what Eagles do on both sides of the ball than the Eagles have for the Chiefs. Chiefs are not that much better than the Eagles in terms of talent, and matter of fact the Eagles are probably more talented across the board. But we're a really bad matchup for them offensively and (with an injured Hurts) defensively. We could legitimately win this game by 20 if the Eagles ever get desperate.

Mitchell Schwartz did an interview and basically said that if our OL even does an average job at stopping the pass rush, Mahomes will put up 30+ points.

I feel really good about our offense for some reason.

What is your power rankings for offensive coordinators when it comes to having their offense face off against an elite pass rush? Where does Reid/Bienemy rank?

I would be shocked if they were not #1.

Shanahan, maybe Belichick or McVay even hold a candle. But this coaching staff and this QB are built to scheme it over.

I'm guessing the OL does their job. The fistfight in the interior is going to be epic.

So long as they can hold their own? The back end is all static zone, which is close to literally the last defense you want against Mahomes. It doesn't even matter that they're super talented.

Think I’ll cheer for the Chiefs (KC) in this one.