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TLO 01-13-2013 01:11 AM

Ugly basketball but a win is a win. But hopefully we are just getting into shape for tougher conference games and the tournament.

Bambi 01-13-2013 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9312412)
Kansas is great, but you'd be hard pressed to argue they're "hands down" better than Duke. Whose coach by the way has a 2nd job winning gold medals for the US national team.

Eh. I suppose. KU's better though. And from what I hear Jabari Parker is the second coming of Shabazz Muhommad. Completely overrated.

Bambi 01-13-2013 02:20 AM

Where is that guy who likes Florida and claims to be a Chiefs fan? He told me the Heat were trying to trade Chamlers.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400278268

CoMoChief 01-13-2013 07:05 AM

One thing you gotta like about Kansas over the past couple seasons is that they can win ugly games where they are just playing like absolute dogshit. It's almost like a lightbulb flashes off at the 2min mark left in the game and they think "oh shit" time to get our shit together and pull this win out of our asses.

CoMoChief 01-13-2013 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 9312583)
Where is that guy who likes Florida and claims to be a Chiefs fan? He told me the Heat were trying to trade Chamlers.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400278268

I wouldn't doubt it....Chalmers is like the black sheep on that team LMAO

CoMoChief 01-13-2013 07:18 AM

I wish Duke and Kansas would play non-con series.

I'd love to watch KU go into Cameron Indoor and wipe the floor w/ Duke.

Buehler445 01-13-2013 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 9312656)
I wish Duke and Kansas would play non-con series.

I'd love to watch KU go into Cameron Indoor and wipe the floor w/ Duke.

They punked us last year. And I think it was even neutral court.

That's the game that TT had like 4,327,835,388,323 turnovers and it is my estimation, that's when he started to turn the corner to lead us to a national championship.

CoMoChief 01-13-2013 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 9312792)
They punked us last year. And I think it was even neutral court.

That's the game that TT had like 4,327,835,388,323 turnovers and it is my estimation, that's when he started to turn the corner to lead us to a national championship.

That was a close game until Duke nailed a ****ing three that led to KU fouling at the end...and even then it was only a 7pt game.

Kansas never plays well at the Maui invitational anyways....been forever since they won the damn thing and they play in it every other year it seems.

I just wanna see Duke play at the Phog, and I wanna see KU play at Cameron Indoor...because I can't remember the last time either had occurred.

Prison Bitch 01-13-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 9312531)
Eh. I suppose. KU's better though. And from what I hear Jabari Parker is the second coming of Shabazz Muhommad. Completely overrated.


How is KU better than Duke?


How is Shabazz "completely overrated"?


Do you even watch college basketball games outside of KU?

DJay23 01-13-2013 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 9312851)
That was a close game until Duke nailed a ****ing three that led to KU fouling at the end...and even then it was only a 7pt game.

Kansas never plays well at the Maui invitational anyways....been forever since they won the damn thing and they play in it every other year it seems.

I just wanna see Duke play at the Phog, and I wanna see KU play at Cameron Indoor...because I can't remember the last time either had occurred.

The only true road games Duke plays is in the ACC/Big 10 Challenge and I believe that's every other year. If they came out this way they would insist on playing in KC.

Prison Bitch 01-13-2013 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DJay23 (Post 9312992)
The only true road games Duke plays is in the ACC/Big 10 Challenge and I believe that's every other year. If they came out this way they would insist on playing in KC.

No, they won't even do that. They don't avoid Allen Fieldhouse because it's Allen Fieldhouse. They avoid it because they get no cut of the $$$ and the KC area is a black hole for their recruiting base, which is mostly Eastern seaboard.

KC_Connection 01-13-2013 11:13 AM

Average KenPom position of programs over last decade:

KU: 6.1
Duke: 6.5

Wisconsin: 14.7
North Carolina: 15.2 (three #1 ratings over this time, but 2010 season where they missed the tournament and 2013 season holding them back from KU/Duke).
Louisville: 16.0
Pittsburgh: 18.4
Florida: 18.5
Kentucky: 18.7 (blame Gillespie, they're 6.7 in four years under Cal)
Michigan St.: 19.1
Syracuse: 21.5
Texas: 22.7
UConn: 23.9
Ohio St.: 25.4 (13.7 under Matta)

Gonzaga: 30.1
Georgetown: 33.1
Arizona: 34.9
West Virginia: 36.9
KSU: 41.5
UCLA: 44.3
Missouri: 48.6

Indiana: 71.2


I got bored this morning and added this up. It's obviously an inexact way to rate programs considering the changing in coaches over the last decade in many of them (and KenPom's system also seems to overrate Wisconsin consistently due to the way they play), but I think it is a pretty good measure of consistency. Only KU and Duke have been consistently elite over the last decade without any real significant down year. Everybody else is a step behind them.

Bambi 01-13-2013 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 9312656)
I wish Duke and Kansas would play non-con series.

I'd love to watch KU go into Cameron Indoor and wipe the floor w/ Duke.

They play next year in the Champion's Classic.

Bambi 01-13-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 9313052)
Average KenPom position of programs over last decade:

KU: 6.1
Duke: 6.5

Wisconsin: 14.7
North Carolina: 15.2 (three #1 ratings over this time, but 2010 season where they missed the tournament and 2013 season holding them back from KU/Duke).
Louisville: 16.0
Pittsburgh: 18.4
Florida: 18.5
Kentucky: 18.7 (blame Gillespie, they're 6.7 in four years under Cal)
Michigan St.: 19.1
Syracuse: 21.5
Texas: 22.7
UConn: 23.9
Ohio St.: 25.4 (13.7 under Matta)

Gonzaga: 30.1
Georgetown: 33.1
Arizona: 34.9
West Virginia: 36.9
KSU: 41.5
UCLA: 44.3
Missouri: 48.6

Indiana: 71.2


I got bored this morning and added this up. It's obviously an inexact way to rate programs considering the changing in coaches over the last decade in many of them (and KenPom's system also seems to overrate Wisconsin consistently due to the way they play), but I think it is a pretty good measure of consistency. Only KU and Duke have been consistently elite over the last decade without any real significant down year. Everybody else is a step behind them.

This is nice. Thanks for researching.

Prison Bitch 01-13-2013 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 9313052)
Only KU and Duke have been consistently elite over the last decade without any real significant down year. Everybody else is a step behind them.

Excellent research. KU has always done phenomenally in KenPom. DOesn't surprise me that they and Duke are so far ahead of the pack. I would've figured Mich State and OSU woudl've been higher than they were in the raw data.


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