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duncan_idaho 11-16-2015 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 11888365)
Yes they paid a good share to Pinkel, but Pinkel was a certain proven commodity here and earned his keep.

Paying an unknown more than what Pinkel makes, which is what it might take to get someone like Herman, is something I'm not sure about.

Pinkel makes $4 million a year. I can't imagine any of the top candidates get more than that.

Herman currently makes $1.35 million/year. Even doubling that would still leave Mizzou at about 65 percent of Pinkel's salary.

Fuente makes $1.4 million. Doubling that would put him around 70 percent of Pinkel's current salary.

Even pushing into the $3 million range for those guys is still not outpaying Pinkel. And if South Carolina decides it wants to pay $5 million a year for Tom Herman or Justin Fuente, my interest dissipates. Too much cash for the risk.

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11888455)
So...what if Right is available?

No thanks.

I'm not a fan of hiring retreads who couldn't be successful at blue blood programs. Shades of Charlie Weis.

If you can't win at an elite level at Georgia (or Notre Dame, or Texas), why the hell would anyone think you could win at Mizzou?

WhawhaWhat 11-16-2015 01:50 PM

Not surprising but..

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Missouri D-tackle Terry Beckner Jr. listed as out for Saturday&#39;s Tennessee game because of knee injury suffered vs BYU</p>&mdash; Dave Matter (@Dave_Matter) <a href="https://twitter.com/Dave_Matter/status/666335415205363712">November 16, 2015</a></blockquote>
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BryanBusby 11-16-2015 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11888475)
Pinkel makes $4 million a year. I can't imagine any of the top candidates get more than that.

Herman currently makes $1.35 million/year. Even doubling that would still leave Mizzou at about 65 percent of Pinkel's salary.

Fuente makes $1.4 million. Doubling that would put him around 70 percent of Pinkel's current salary.

Even pushing into the $3 million range for those guys is still not outpaying Pinkel. And if South Carolina decides it wants to pay $5 million a year for Tom Herman or Justin Fuente, my interest dissipates. Too much cash for the risk.



No thanks.

I'm not a fan of hiring retreads who couldn't be successful at blue blood programs. Shades of Charlie Weis.

If you can't win at an elite level at Georgia (or Notre Dame, or Texas), why the hell would anyone think you could win at Mizzou?

They might be too much cash. Just depends who all goes in for their services.

Not the biggest fan of Richt, but he would be an okay Plan B.

duncan_idaho 11-16-2015 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 11888669)
They might be too much cash. Just depends who all goes in for their services.

Not the biggest fan of Richt, but he would be an okay Plan B.

Oh, I think Barry Odom is Plan B (and maybe plan 1B, actually). Not sure there is much separation between he, Fuente and Herman for Mack Rhoades.

Honestly, of all the names mentioned, Richt is the only one I would dislike. Re-tread who wasn't successful at the level to which Mizzou hopes to climb, at a program with more advantages? Blecccch.

I'd be shocked to see any team exceeding a $3 million AAV for either of those guys, and, like I said, if the bidding gets crazy, I'm fine with moving on to the next guy. Some schools can absorb the risk of paying Tom Herman $28 million over 7 years and having it not work. Mizzou isn't one of them (And honestly, neither is South Carolina).

GloryDayz 11-16-2015 06:07 PM

I say offer Bill Belichick an offer he can't refuse.

Reaper16 11-16-2015 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11888070)
Man, I hope Northwest Missouri State doesn't win the D2 national title this year. Tim Wolfe will force their coach on us...

Oh, wait...

Speak for your damn self. :)

BryanBusby 11-16-2015 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11888682)
Oh, I think Barry Odom is Plan B (and maybe plan 1B, actually). Not sure there is much separation between he, Fuente and Herman for Mack Rhoades.

Honestly, of all the names mentioned, Richt is the only one I would dislike. Re-tread who wasn't successful at the level to which Mizzou hopes to climb, at a program with more advantages? Blecccch.

I'd be shocked to see any team exceeding a $3 million AAV for either of those guys, and, like I said, if the bidding gets crazy, I'm fine with moving on to the next guy. Some schools can absorb the risk of paying Tom Herman $28 million over 7 years and having it not work. Mizzou isn't one of them (And honestly, neither is South Carolina).

I'm not certain if Odom is prepared enough to cut his teeth as a coach in the SEC.

Richt can recruit well and put in a solid SEC plan. If he wants to bring Brian Schottenheimer with him than well **** no.

MU needs to make a progressive hire.

WhawhaWhat 11-16-2015 09:08 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As <a href="https://twitter.com/DavidCMorrison">@DavidCMorrison</a> tweeted GA prospect Tobias Little is now a former <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Mizzou?src=hash">#Mizzou</a> commit. Tweets his decommitment a few minutes ago</p>&mdash; Gabe DeArmond (@GabeDeArmond) <a href="https://twitter.com/GabeDeArmond/status/666447671108878336">November 17, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Jerm 11-16-2015 09:09 PM

What does everyone think about Matt Rhule?

The more I read the more intrigued I get...I like him if we miss out on Herman/Fuente.

Jerm 11-16-2015 09:21 PM

Another guy I've been tossing around in my head is Rich Rodriguez...don't know if he'd leave Arizona but I've always been curious to see how he'd do in the SEC.

BryanBusby 11-16-2015 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 11889461)
Another guy I've been tossing around in my head is Rich Rodriguez...don't know if he'd leave Arizona but I've always been curious to see how he'd do in the SEC.

He will for the right price. Would pass.

patteeu 11-16-2015 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11882493)
Big win. Makes a bowl possible if they can knock off Tennessee next week or upset Arkansas.

But the reaction after the game was even bigger.

Such a powerful thing to see. Anyone who doubted Pinkel's decision to back his players should watch the post game stuff again and re-think that position.

I think the post game demonstration was outstanding and speaks well of the family-like relationship Pinkel develops with his team, but that alone doesn't justify Pinkel's decision. His action was instrumental in causing significant damage to the university beyond football. I'm sure he didn't intend to have that effect, but he did. I wish him the best in retirement though and he deserves a statue for what he did for Mizzou over the course of his career.

In fact, the statue should be him standing in the middle of a circle of his players whooping it up like he did that night.

KChiefs1 11-16-2015 10:44 PM

Ok...explain this to me.

Dumbass on KTGR(Columbia sports station) was claiming that Mizzou would make a better bowl at 5-7 compared to 6-6 due to SEC tie-in's & that due to high graduation rates they'd get picked for a decent bowl. At 6-6 it would probably be the Independence Bowl but could be better at 5-7.

Is that possible?

BryanBusby 11-16-2015 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 11889605)
I think the post game demonstration was outstanding and speaks well of the family-like relationship Pinkel develops with his team, but that alone doesn't justify Pinkel's decision. His action was instrumental in causing significant damage to the university beyond football. I'm sure he didn't intend to have that effect, but he did. I wish him the best in retirement though and he deserves a statue for what he did for Mizzou over the course of his career.

In fact, the statue should be him standing in the middle of a circle of his players whooping it up like he did that night.

I don't think anyone gives a **** about any of what you're wrapped up about, 365 days from now.

You're severely reaching.

patteeu 11-16-2015 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 11889655)
Ok...explain this to me.

Dumbass on KTGR(Columbia sports station) was claiming that Mizzou would make a better bowl at 5-7 compared to 6-6 due to SEC tie-in's & that due to high graduation rates they'd get picked for a decent bowl. At 6-6 it would probably be the Independence Bowl but could be better at 5-7.

Is that possible?

Can you even go to a bowl at 5-7?


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