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MahomesMagic 03-08-2021 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 15575795)
Veach had a quick comment on his last interview that made me think there is a possibility they roll with Hill, Hardman, Pringle, etc. and prioritize a real weapon at TE behind Kelce...potentially in free agency.

A TE like Zach Ertz (just an example) would make this offense much more multiple, potentially help in the run game, and allow Kelce to move around even more, knowing another weapon is on the field opposite him.

I'm fine with adding another TE but Hardman as our 2nd best WR is gross.

htismaqe 03-08-2021 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15575672)
I don’t remember you being called an idiot.

But that conversation was pre-Veach teleconference. It was based on the idea/fear Schwartz was going to just retire and Fisher would be out almost all of 2021. With Schwartz sounding like he’s on track to be back for all offseason activities and the positive hope for Fisher, it moves the Chiefs from needed to find a long-term fix to needing to find a short-term band aid.

Without the $20M of cap room those two no longer being in the picture created, it is hard to see the Chiefs spending the cap they can clear by extending Mathieu, restructuring Mahomes and Kelce, and possibly extending Hill on another OT.

Sorry but even before the Fisher / Schwartz news, there was zero chance they were going to be in on the Williams sweepstakes. He was never coming here.

htismaqe 03-08-2021 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 15575517)
The difference is that Reiter and Wylie get the same snap counts and Fisher and Schwartz, that not even close to being true of DRob and Hardman. Comparing a #3 and #4 WR to a starter along the offensive line is apples and oranges.

I mean do you think Kelce and Hill should get less targets? Because if you draft a WR in the first round, you are.

A first round or FA WR is going to take reps from Hardman and DRob, not from Hill and Kelce.

And as for the line, snap counts are irrelevant. They're your 3rd and 4th best offensive linemen, right now. They're NEVER going to be as good as your 1st and 2nd-best, even if you replace them. You're never going to have studs at every position on the line unless you sell out to do it.

staylor26 03-08-2021 11:55 AM

Nothing about Veach’s comments suggest that he’s going to ignore WR in favor of TE2.

In fact, nothing this team has done in Reid’s tenure suggest that would be the case.

Here’s a thought. Maybe they can add a WR AND a TE!

RunKC 03-08-2021 12:00 PM

Veach is going add weapons damn near every year guys. He’s added at least one each year he’s been GM.

That will continue

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-08-2021 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15575603)
Veach floating that backup TE comment was very interesting. Makes me wonder if that is a priority since Kelce is turning 32 this year.

Maybe give him a few more breathers to stay fresh as he gets older to keep his productivity up.

Kelce is gonna play until he’s 40 at this rate. No major injuries and seems like he’s getting better with age

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-08-2021 12:14 PM

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TRR 03-08-2021 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15575839)
Nothing about Veach’s comments suggest that he’s going to ignore WR in favor of TE2.

In fact, nothing this team has done in Reid’s tenure suggest that would be the case.

Here’s a thought. Maybe they can add a WR AND a TE!

Time will tell.

staylor26 03-08-2021 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 15575856)
Time will tell.

I don’t know why so many on CP think they can’t address multiple needs/positions.

Between free agency and the draft this team can easily add an OT, C, WR, TE, DE, S, LB, and CB.

After comp picks are announced we should have 7 picks in the first 5 rounds.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-08-2021 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15575864)
I don’t know why so many on CP think they can’t address multiple needs/positions.

Between free agency and the draft this team can easily add an OT, C, WR, TE, DE, S, LB, and CB.

After comp picks are announced we should have 7 picks in the first 5 rounds.

Yep. It’s predicted we get a fourth for Fuller and a fifth for Ogbah

htismaqe 03-08-2021 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15575864)
I don’t know why so many on CP think they can’t address multiple needs/positions.

Between free agency and the draft this team can easily add an OT, C, WR, TE, DE, S, LB, and CB.

After comp picks are announced we should have 7 picks in the first 5 rounds.

They need at least 4 new offensive linemen. :D

Pitt Gorilla 03-08-2021 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15575637)
Demetrius Harris looks like Antonio Gates compared to the players we've had at TE2 since he left.

Which is pretty much what I said was going to happen at the time. Chief Fan loved to hate on Harris, but I never understood who they thought would competently replace him. Bell Dozer was the closest we could get.

Always assuming "well, we can draft a guy" and it'll work out is a fool's errand.

The Franchise 03-08-2021 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 15575886)
Which is pretty much what I said was going to happen at the time. Chief Fan loved to hate on Harris, but I never understood who they thought would competently replace him. Bell Dozer was the closest we could get.

Always assuming "well, we can draft a guy" and it'll work out is a fool's errand.

The last time we drafted a TE was in 2015.

Pitt Gorilla 03-08-2021 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15575889)
The last time we drafted a TE was in 2015.

Exactly. There are only so many picks to go around.

Chris Meck 03-08-2021 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15575871)
They need at least 4 new offensive linemen. :D

no, but they need 2.


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