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duncan_idaho 11-19-2015 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541 (Post 11893578)
So what you are saying is if the coaching hire works out and the football Tigers are successful, we can thank Payton Head and Jonathan Butler?:D

It's a silver lining.

O.city 11-19-2015 11:03 AM

I think USCw goes after Herman. I think Odom is the best bet, personally, he would be my choice.

duncan_idaho 11-19-2015 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11893702)
I think USCw goes after Herman. I think Odom is the best bet, personally, he would be my choice.

You mean USCe?

I think the Trojans will set their sites higher and likely pull a more proven coach.

Chip Kelly to USC makes a lot of sense.

I wouldn't be upset if it's Odom, but I do think Herman is just as big a star and a little more proven than Odom.

O.city 11-19-2015 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11893724)
You mean USCe?

I think the Trojans will set their sites higher and likely pull a more proven coach.

Chip Kelly to USC makes a lot of sense.

I wouldn't be upset if it's Odom, but I do think Herman is just as big a star and a little more proven than Odom.

No, I think Cali USC goes after Herman, or atleast they should.

I don't think chip is leaving Philly, too much power there.

For me, Herman just hasn't done alot with his own guys at Houston, that gives me pause. Plus with Odom, I don't think you lose any recruits and he's well established.

So USCw will try and make a big splash hire to recreate the Carroll days, but it won't work and they should go after herman.

duncan_idaho 11-19-2015 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11893732)
No, I think Cali USC goes after Herman, or atleast they should.

I don't think chip is leaving Philly, too much power there.

For me, Herman just hasn't done alot with his own guys at Houston, that gives me pause. Plus with Odom, I don't think you lose any recruits and he's well established.

So USCw will try and make a big splash hire to recreate the Carroll days, but it won't work and they should go after herman.

That's an interesting thought. I just don't see the fit, because Herman's connections are all midwest/Texas/Southeast, so that might be a real stretch for him (Kind of like Kiffin at Tennessee).

Herman is winning at Houston - and just beat the best team on his schedule, a legit top 10-type team - with a converted WR at QB. Yeah, not all his players, but he also has taken them to heights the previous coach wasn't coming close to touching.

He also has a great recruiting class lined up to HOUSTON, that includes a DT who is a top 10 national recruit on every service (except Rivals, where the UT site's influence is almost certainly dampening his ranking).

Whenever you're hiring a coach, especially for football, I think concerning yourself with one recruiting class is a dangerous trap to fall into. Especially when it's a class that doesn't have a program-changing player in it. The long-term health of the program will be more impacted by making the BEST hire rather than doing the best you can with one (small) recruiting class.

This is the perfect year to absorb a little hit to a class, IMO ... as they have taken very big ones the past two seasons, and this class was going to be small, anyway.

Plus, with the amount of young talent Mizzou has returning and Herman's proven ability to inject major life into an offense/shepherd a QB, I'd be very excited to see what he can do starting next season and especially in 2017.

I'd get behind Odom and be excited about him. I trust Mack Rhoades with this hire (even going back to his days at Akron, he has a strong track record for hiring EXCELLENT coaches). If he chooses him over Herman, I wont' complain a bit.

Jerm 11-19-2015 11:55 AM

I can't lie, I'd be underwhelmed with Odom...to me just comes off as one of those guys meant to be a coordinator, like Christensen.

KChiefs1 11-19-2015 12:14 PM

Jeremy Crabtree is a big-time Herman fan per Petro's show. He also think Mizzou is a 4/5 on the job scale below the big boys but better than most.

Dr. Gigglepants 11-19-2015 01:18 PM

Am I the only one that sees some parallels between Herman and Malzhan? Both offensive minded coaches, experienced a lot of success as OC a every stop, including P5. Get first HC gig, then scooped up by a P5 after 1 good season.

Make of it what you will but it sounds similar to me
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Pepe Silvia 11-19-2015 10:56 PM

Unless we can promise a good up and coming coach the lady in GloryDayz avatar I have a bad feeling we're getting stuck with a Turner Gill. :(

Prison Bitch 11-19-2015 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 11894811)
i have a bad feeling we're getting stuck with a Turner Gill. :(

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O.city 11-20-2015 09:55 AM

Confirmed Beckner with torn acl mcl, meniscus damage and bone bruise.

Mizzou_8541 11-20-2015 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11895099)
Confirmed Beckner with torn acl mcl, meniscus damage and bone bruise.

Well ****. He'll probably be out most of the year next year too then, right?

O.city 11-20-2015 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541 (Post 11895389)
Well ****. He'll probably be out most of the year next year too then, right?

Mu doc said he should be back by game 1 next year

Mizzou_8541 11-20-2015 12:34 PM

Well that's good, especially if Brantley can't return.

GloryDayz 11-20-2015 06:49 PM

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/colle...8b4134ebf.html


COLUMBIA, Mo. • Missouri defensive tackle Terry Beckner Jr.' season is over. The freshman sensation from East St. Louis tore the ACL and MCL in his right knee on MU's first defensive play against Brigham Young last Saturday, Mizzou announced Friday.
Beckner Jr. also suffered some meniscus damage and a bone bruise. He'll undergo surgery in two to three weeks. Team trainer Rex Sharp believes he'll be fully recovered in time for the start of 2016 preseason camp next August.
Beckner was having an outstanding freshman season with 27 tackles, eight tackles for loss and three sacks. He ranked third on the team in tackles for loss and sacks. ProFootballFocus.com's analytics had rated Beckner the nation's top freshman defensive tackle and No. 3 freshman at any position.
Missouri (5-5, 1-5) has two regular-season games left starting with Saturday's visit from Tennessee (6-4, 3-3). Kickoff is set for 6:15 p.m. on ESPN2.


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