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Are you saying Eflin for Moustakas? I’d be all over that. Would be a huge coup.

Or are you saying Eflin for Merrifield? Because that’s less exciting. Would rather spread out the return to multiple players a few years away, that line up with the next grouping of players better.


Ray was a top 50 prospect entering last season and is having a nice rebound season at AA. I’d value him like a top 50-75 prospect, which should be the headliner in any deal for Merrifield with multiple players.

It might be a little light for what KC would need, but I like him a lot.

It would have to be Merrifield. You won't get anything close to Eflin for Moustakas.

You'd have to trust Eflin's renaissance but if you did, it would be hard to argue against that deal. He's a 24 yr old with 4 years of control remaining after this season. Let's say in 2019 he has another year like he's having now - you could get the Quintana package for him at that point; an Eloy Jimenez kind of return.

If you're flipping assets you may not get exactly where you want to be in a single move, but flipping Whit for a guy who's trade value could easily double Merrifield's in 12 months time would have to be a worthwhile consideration.

Or, if you think Eflin's just in a hot stretch and could easily return to being a #5 type soon enough, you obviously don't make the move. As is often the case, that's a scouts trade. But at 6'6'' and with a broad frame, there's nothing in his build that says he can't support his newly found velocity on the repaired knees.

@FlannyMLB: Burch Smith will start Wednesday. Jason Hammel to the bullpen.

I really thought Moose, Whit and Salvy were way better than anyone on those 100 loss teams.. plus guys like Soler and Bonifacio who have some legit big time talent. But it hasn't worked out that way. This team is way worse offensively than the last 100 loss team in 2006.

Greinke wasn't back yet on those 100 loss teams... those were the Scott Elarton/Mark Redman years. Those were some horrible, horrible pitching staffs. Basically everyone that pitched had a 5+ ERA. This year's team is heading down the same path, especially now that we lost Herrera.

They misspelled "DFA".

That’s what I figured. I see where you’re going with it but just don’t love betting all of that on Eflin continuing to be this good AND doing so while moving to the American League and not getting 2 free outs a game.

On the other hand, he leaves one of the nastiest pitching parks in the game for the friendly confines of Kaufman.

If he's legit, the switch in parks can make up a lot of what the switch in leagues costs him.

The 'if' is the catch, but it's also the only reason why you could get him. I mean the kid's pitched as well as anyone in baseball for a month now. If you'd have tried to snag Severino prior to the 2017 season you could have done so but if you waited until the end of 2017 he'd become one of the least attainable assets in baseball. Snell's looking like a similar creature. Maybe you could've snagged him in April when he was pitching well but nobody knew if he'd continue to do so. 10 weeks later you'd have to offer the moon for him. He who hesitates, masturbates and what not...

You don't get young aces unless you're willing to gamble before they've fully established themselves.

I've been skeptical all along they'll get much for Moose. But with several teams jumping in maybe they can get something decent.

I still think Royals fans are going to be disappointed. Fans view him as a fan favorite and cornerstone type player, and I don't think other teams see it that way. He's already posted a higher WAR than last year though because his defense has rated better. Then you factor in he's a rental and this is probably going to be the best buyer's market in years because half the league is out of the playoffs already.

It really depends on the market but remember that JD Martinez got a bag of beans last year and was the clear top of the market for hitters.

Moustakas, OTOH, is maybe as low as 3rd in line among 3b options (let alone all possible hitter).

That's not to say the market will be identical this year but there's definitely a chance. There's a reason the guy had to take a 'make good' deal in the off-season and while he started out hot, he went cold for a good bit as well. He's not really been much of an asset for the last 50 games or so - that's not gonna help, especially when he's a rental.

If you could get a top 100 prospect you scream 'yes!' and hang up the phone before he has a chance to change his mind. I'd be pretty surprised if that's the case. I'd guess you're more likely to get a couple of guys that are sitting in the 20-30 range of a team's prospect pool. Maybe if you're lucky one of them turns into a Luis Castillo or Freddy Peralta.

If someone legit offered a top 100 prospect I'd hire Elon Musk to send Moose to the other team on a rocket ship before the other GM hung up the phone. I'm expecting a prospect on a team's 15-20 range, and that may be too high.

The last couple years there have been 20 some odd teams still in contention because of the wild cards. This year there may be 12-15, and they aren't all going to be big buyers.

Lots of buzz on Twitter this morning that the Brewers have thrown their hat into the Machado sweepstakes. May have to wait on this before we'd see any traction on Merrifield.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Dodgers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Dodgers</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Brewers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Brewers</a> most serious for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Orioles?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Orioles</a>’ Machado, sources tell The Athletic. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Indians?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Indians</a> also in mix, though taking on rest of Machado’s $16M might be obstacle. Question remains: Will O’s ownership view offers practically or slow down process by asking for other players?</p>&mdash; Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1016008907477549056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 8, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">More news: Cheslor Cuthbert has had a setback in his rehab assignment with Omaha. He likely will be pulled off his rehab while they determine the next medical step. He had been recovering from a back strain.</p>&mdash; Jeffrey Flanagan (@FlannyMLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/FlannyMLB/status/1016010739079897088?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 8, 2018</a></blockquote>
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If the Brewers would talk Santana and Arcia, that deal would almost certainly get done.

It might be an overpay for them but Arcia's been a disappointment and they're struggling to find a home for Santana. The Orioles will ask Huira but that's gonna be a tough pull for them.

I don’t think they’ll get a TON. Landing a 10-20 guy and a 20-30 guy out of the Yankees system would be a really nice return for him.