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tk13 07-08-2018 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13619525)
If the Brewers would talk Santana and Arcia, that deal would almost certainly get done.

It might be an overpay for them but Arcia's been a disappointment and they're struggling to find a home for Santana. The Orioles will ask Huira but that's gonna be a tough pull for them.

I see conflicting reports on what the Dodgers are offering in comparison... but they are usually not big on offering up their top guys. The only guy apparently saying the Dodgers have offered their top guys is Jim Bowden. And we know how accurate he usually is.

duncan_idaho 07-08-2018 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13619505)
On the other hand, he leaves one of the nastiest pitching parks in the game for the friendly confines of Kaufman.

If he's legit, the switch in parks can make up a lot of what the switch in leagues costs him.

The 'if' is the catch, but it's also the only reason why you could get him. I mean the kid's pitched as well as anyone in baseball for a month now. If you'd have tried to snag Severino prior to the 2017 season you could have done so but if you waited until the end of 2017 he'd become one of the least attainable assets in baseball. Snell's looking like a similar creature. Maybe you could've snagged him in April when he was pitching well but nobody knew if he'd continue to do so. 10 weeks later you'd have to offer the moon for him. He who hesitates, masturbates and what not...

You don't get young aces unless you're willing to gamble before they've fully established themselves.


Yeah, it’s an interesting, creative idea and presents the potential to turn a good trade chip into a great one.

I just can’t see Moore and his staff making the deal with that in mind. And there is a fair amount of risk (swapping a position player asset for a pitching asset, that pitcher being one on a hot streak who doesn’t have much track record at this level of performance).

Everything we’ve seen from them suggests they’ll target multiple guys and look for upside guys rather than a proven major leaguer.

DJ's left nut 07-08-2018 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13619528)
I see conflicting reports on what the Dodgers are offering in comparison... but they are usually not big on offering up their top guys. The only guy apparently saying the Dodgers have offered their top guys is Jim Bowden. And we know how accurate he usually is.

Their refusal to part with Alex Verdugo has been the damndest thing to me.

In an absolutely perfect world where nothing goes wrong in his development he becomes Christian Yelich. Meanwhile they gave up Calhoun who may not have Verdugo's high floor but I think his ceiling is better.

The Dodgers and their ridiculous wealth should be a little less clingy with some of their prospects, IMO.

duncan_idaho 07-08-2018 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13619525)
If the Brewers would talk Santana and Arcia, that deal would almost certainly get done.



It might be an overpay for them but Arcia's been a disappointment and they're struggling to find a home for Santana. The Orioles will ask Huira but that's gonna be a tough pull for them.


Not if I’m pulling the trigger for the Orioles. Would be a really underwhelming return for a rental of a top 10 position player.

They’re fixated on pitching in the return. If they were being creative, the Orioles would throw Bundy into their deal with the Brewers and ask for Hiura, Burnes, and another guy like Wilkerson for the Machado/Bundy combo.

DJ's left nut 07-08-2018 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13619535)
Not if I’m pulling the trigger for the Orioles. Would be a really underwhelming return for a rental of a top 10 position player.

They’re fixated on pitching in the return. If they were being creative, the Orioles would throw Bundy into their deal with the Brewers and ask for Hiura, Burnes, and another guy like Wilkerson for the Machado/Bundy combo.

I think Santana hits 35 in Camden. Just entering his prime with 3 more years of control after this one. I think he's a nice player with an established major league floor.

Arcia looked like an emerging talent last year and has long been a top 100 type prospect; as much as a top 10 in a lot of lists. Just 23 and with 4 years of control after this year.

That's two pretty nice big league players with potential to be fringe all-star caliber guys with a lot of control left for a player they know they're losing soon. They may not have superstar upside but they have a lot of potential.

duncan_idaho 07-08-2018 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13619544)
I think Santana hits 35 in Camden. Just entering his prime with 3 more years of control after this one. I think he's a nice player with an established major league floor.



Arcia looked like an emerging talent last year and has long been a top 100 type prospect; as much as a top 10 in a lot of lists. Just 23 and with 4 years of control after this year.



That's two pretty nice big league players with potential to be fringe all-star caliber guys with a lot of control left for a player they know they're losing soon. They may not have superstar upside but they have a lot of potential.


It’s a lot of control, sure, but Santana is atrocious defensively and has struggled enough this year to be relegated to the minors despite a breakout last year. He’s also in a great hitters park already.

But maybe getting solid major leaguers back makes it easier to sell the deal to Angelos, who is crazy.

lewdog 07-08-2018 01:54 PM

Have a friend who bought a 20 game flex package for the Royals this year. His wife talked him into it.

They've seen 1 win in 11 games they've attended.

ROFL

Al Bundy 07-08-2018 02:00 PM

Whit contributing to the losing..

ChiefsCountry 07-08-2018 03:27 PM

Well we got a bunch of games coming up with rest of the AL Central. I'm sure some wins will be coming.

jimidollar 07-08-2018 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 13619739)
Well we got a bunch of games coming up with rest of the AL Central. I'm sure some wins will be coming.

So, one or two.

Whit 5 for 5 in the loss today.

CasselGotPeedOn 07-08-2018 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 13619739)
Well we got a bunch of games coming up with rest of the AL Central. I'm sure some wins will be coming.

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ChiTown 07-08-2018 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 13619739)
Well we got a bunch of games coming up with rest of the AL Central. I'm sure some wins will be coming.

Yeah, exactly what I was thinking.......ROFL

Jerok 07-08-2018 04:19 PM

Moustakas struck out on the high fastball twice in a row tonight. And by high, I mean a foot high. Looks bad, we need to trade him before he tanks his value, like we did with Herrera

OKchiefs 07-08-2018 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 13619625)
Whit contributing to the losing..

How? Or is this sarcasm? Because 5/5 isn't contributing to losing.

OKchiefs 07-08-2018 05:42 PM

Did anyone post yet that Bubba Starling is finally playing again? He hit two homeruns yesterday. I'm sure it won't last, or he'll get injured again, but it's at least a glimmer of hope. I'd like to see him get a call up in September at the latest if he's actually still healthy by then.


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