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penguinz 09-15-2021 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15834309)
Clearly. But there have been mitigating circumstances. Running backs don't operate in a vacuum.

I expect big things as the season goes on.
Hopefully your are correct but I don’t think you are.

chiefzilla1501 09-15-2021 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by prhom (Post 15834339)
A people have pointed out, his stats are not bottom barrel, they are just middling. There’s nothing awful about that, but he was drafted high to make teams pay for playing soft against the run. It still seems to me that teams are not at all afraid of the threat of a run. Even a middling RB facing light boxes and defenses scheming to sell out against the pass should probably have better results than we are seeing from CEH.

I still hope he figures it out with the new line, but he certainly hasn’t been able to be the threat we all thought he’d be.
Agreed. He does play well in space. And Andy seemed reluctant to screen which is where I think CEH will do some damage. Maybe he's waiting for the OL to gel. I'm optimistic but maybe these games will be lessons for him to see the field better.

suzzer99 09-15-2021 11:09 AM
Everybody plays well in space.

ToxSocks 09-15-2021 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 15834677)
Everybody plays well in space.
Not people with Astrophobia.

Deberg_1990 09-15-2021 11:30 AM
The CEH passing plays at 1:55 and 10:24 are excellent. I would like to see more of this.


https://youtu.be/4g2R-kn_-0c

Red Dawg 09-15-2021 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15834708)
The CEH passing plays at 1:55 and 10:24 are excellent. I would like to see more of this.


https://youtu.be/4g2R-kn_-0c
His blocking on the Mahomes TD run was awful. Total miss. Missed open holes as well.

I like him but he needs some work but doesn't get handoffs much.

Red Dawg 09-15-2021 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 15834130)
No clue why we got rid of gore
I have no clue why to took an RB in the first round just for him not be used more. They used Williams a lot more. He was ignored in the SB completely and Sunday didn't do much.

There has to be more to the offense than Travis and Hill or it will fail us eventually. Somebody has be a third stud but so far it hasn't happened.

CEH, Hardman or Robinson should be more a part of the plan but clearly Mahomes doesn't fully trust them or they just are not very good in his eyes.

On third down you know where the ball is going.

chiefzilla1501 09-15-2021 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 15834677)
Everybody plays well in space.
Not everybody. He's been real good at making people miss when he has just a little wiggle room. We haven't used him a whole ton in the screen game and I just wonder if that's coming once Reid feels comfortable with where the OL is at.

Monticore 09-15-2021 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 15834735)
I have no clue why to took an RB in the first round just for him not be used more. They used Williams a lot more. He was ignored in the SB completely and Sunday didn't do much.

There has to be more to the offense than Travis and Hill or it will fail us eventually. Somebody has be a third stud but so far it hasn't happened.

CEH, Hardman or Robinson should be more a part of the plan but clearly Mahomes doesn't fully trust them or they just are not very good in his eyes.

On third down you know where the ball is going.
Was hoping for more screens RB/TE this year just to at least slow down any pass rush , teams just seems to play us like every down is 3rd and long

dirk digler 09-15-2021 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15834708)
The CEH passing plays at 1:55 and 10:24 are excellent. I would like to see more of this.


https://youtu.be/4g2R-kn_-0c
As DJ pointed out though, McKinnon could do that and gain alot more yards. He could probably house a couple as well.

penguinz 09-15-2021 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15834708)
The CEH passing plays at 1:55 and 10:24 are excellent. I would like to see more of this.


https://youtu.be/4g2R-kn_-0c
Not really. Last years version of Bell would have done the same if not more with those.

saphojunkie 09-15-2021 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 15834677)
Everybody plays well in space.
**** you I present Demarcus Robinson as exhibit A.

dirk digler 09-15-2021 12:10 PM
It seems the last few years our screen game to the RB has gone to shit is that because teams don't fear our run game so it is not very effective?

ToxSocks 09-15-2021 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 15834759)
Not really. Last years version of Bell would have done the same if not more with those.
Eh.

Too far, too far.

saphojunkie 09-15-2021 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 15834759)
Not really. Last years version of Bell would have done the same if not more with those.
wut


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