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Shields68 02-26-2018 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 13438849)
He a left a game thinking he had been ejected. Kelce has more personal fouls called against him than Peters.

And yelling and screaming at coaches on the sideline? Should Tom Brady be traded as well?

https://brobible.files.wordpress.com...ality=90&w=640

I am still waiting for you to list CONFIRMED actions that Marcus Peters has done that are as close to as bad as what Tyreek Hill did by beating his pregnant girlfriend.

Most teams can live with the yelling and screaming. Now if it was a physical confrontation that is a different story. The smart play might be to keep it under wraps, suspend him a game and not totally destroy his value and trade him. Some point we might find out.

chiefzilla1501 02-26-2018 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 13438859)
Most teams can live with the yelling and screaming. Now if it was a physical confrontation that is a different story. The smart play might be to keep it under wraps, suspend him a game and not totally destroy his value and trade him. Some point we might find out.

Peters' actions in most cases are inexcusable. The problem i have are underlying symptoms. People may not have liked the anthem stance. But did the fans handle it well? No. Did the team handle it well? They seemed more interested in punting than tackling it head on. Peters can't blow up on coaches like that. But did the coaches listen and how many times does reid have to get clowned and players be ok with it?

So I continue to ask... Sure, this led to a situation where we had no choice. But could it have been prevented if the team and fans acted differently. Maybe peters was bound to blow up. But I also think the team gets way too much credit as they could have handled this better too.

FloridaMan88 02-26-2018 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13438869)
Peters' actions in most cases are inexcusable. The problem i have are underlying symptoms. People may not have liked the anthem stance. But did the fans handle it well? No. Did the team handle it well? They seemed more interested in punting than tackling it head on. Peters can't blow up on coaches like that. But did the coaches listen and how many times does reid have to get clowned and players be ok with it?

So I continue to ask... Sure, this led to a situation where we had no choice. But could it have been prevented if the team and fans acted differently. Maybe peters was bound to blow up. But I also think the team gets way too much credit as they could have handled this better too.

Agreed.

Winning teams find a way to make it work with high maintenance/talented players.

Teams that have one playoff win in 20+ years and haven't been to a Super Bowl in 40+ years do what the Chiefs just did with Marcus Peters.

Red Dawg 02-26-2018 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 13438875)
Agreed.

Winning teams find a way to make it work with high maintenance/talented players.

Teams that have one playoff win in 20+ years and haven't been to a Super Bowl in 40+ years do what the Chiefs just did with Marcus Peters.

Bullshit. Did Piit make it work with Blount, no. Make it work with Harrison, no. Do the Pats make it work with mal-contents, no. They ship then all off to have cohesion and team work. Does anyone want Peters ****ing up shit for Mahomes first year leading the team? Of course not.

Shields68 02-26-2018 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 13438875)
Agreed.

Winning teams find a way to make it work with high maintenance/talented players.

Teams that have one playoff win in 20+ years and haven't been to a Super Bowl in 40+ years do what the Chiefs just did with Marcus Peters.

Patriots plan seem to try and avoid taking them in the first place. If they end up with such a player to then ship them out as soon as possible. Granted Brady helps them to cover some of the problems but having head cases on the team is not a good long term strategy.

There is also a matter of degree. Andy seems willing to put up with a lot. Getting physical with a coach is not something you can work with. Continually being disruptive in practice and/or team meetings again is not workable. Unless your in the building it is hard to tell what if anything the Chiefs could have done.

Sassy Squatch 02-26-2018 11:49 AM

LMAO Bill Belicheck has made a career of shipping off malcontents and still generating the same results. Every once in a while he'll take a chance on guys like Haynesworth and Chad Johnson, but even those were cheap ass prove it deals.

chiefzilla1501 02-26-2018 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13438904)
Bullshit. Did Piit make it work with Blount, no. Make it work with Harrison, no. Do the Pats make it work with mal-contents, no. They ship then all off to have cohesion and team work. Does anyone want Peters ****ing up shit for Mahomes first year leading the team? Of course not.

The pats brought in Harrison, Floyd, moss, Blount, etc... Knowing full well what baggage they were getting. I don't think you build a team around malcontents. But what exactly about the peters situation do you think the Chiefs managed it well, other than a blanket "reid has dealt with tough characters before"? I think it's fair to ask if from the top down we punted too many times on this

RunKC 02-26-2018 11:59 AM

You don’t need to believe SAUTO or doomy’s connections to see what the truth is.

The fact is that only one team truly wanted this kid and 4 former staff members on new teams did not show serious interest.

I know it’s hard to use your head to figure shit out instead of just blasting the Chiefs, but maybe, just maybe this mother****er is a terrible player to deal with and the entire league knows it.

FloridaMan88 02-26-2018 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13438910)
LMAO Bill Belicheck has made a career of shipping off malcontents and still generating the same results. Every once in a while he'll take a chance on guys like Haynesworth and Chad Johnson, but even those were cheap ass prove it deals.

JFC you are a dumbshit.

Randy Moss?

Aqib Talib?

James Harrison?

All high maintenance players Belichick has acquired over the years.

Belichick knows better than anyone that you don’t give up on talented/high maintenance players since he was Lawrence Taylor’s DC with the Giants when they won multiple Super Bowls.

chiefzilla1501 02-26-2018 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13438926)
You don’t need to believe SAUTO or doomy’s connections to see what the truth is.

The fact is that only one team truly wanted this kid and 4 former staff members on new teams did not show serious interest.

I know it’s hard to use your head to figure shit out instead of just blasting the Chiefs, but maybe, just maybe this mother****er is a terrible player to deal with and the entire league knows it.

Only two teams negotiated for Alex Smith that we know of. Does that make Alex Smith a terrible player? Or is it maybe that the trade market is usually limited to the few teams that are interested and believe they have a shot.

RunKC 02-26-2018 12:06 PM

“Winning teams find a way to make it work.”

Well isn’t that just ****ing dandy. So explain to the class why winning organizations like the Patriots, Steelers, Ravens and Seahawks didn’t talk to us about getting an all-pro corner on a cheap contract for a discount?

“Winning organizations” with stability of handling these types of players weren’t interested.

There’s your proof dumbasses

cooper barrett 02-26-2018 12:09 PM

Tyreek's GF/ baby momma is a ****ing nut job. I am not going to say she didn't provoke the situation, but the guy got a sweetheart of a deal from an OK court... and for a black guy who would set a precedent that OK doesn't go easy on DV charges, he was a poster child.

That says a lot to me that the facts may not be all true, only 2 people know but she's now on Tyreek's payroll so she's never discussing it until the paychecks quit coming....

She stated that she met multiple times with the prosecutor to make the SIS deal possible.


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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 13438849)
He a left a game thinking he had been ejected. Kelce has more personal fouls called against him than Peters.

And yelling and screaming at coaches on the sideline? Should Tom Brady be traded as well?

https://brobible.files.wordpress.com...ality=90&w=640

I am still waiting for you to list CONFIRMED actions that Marcus Peters has done that are as close to as bad as what Tyreek Hill did by beating his pregnant girlfriend.


RunKC 02-26-2018 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13438938)
Only two teams negotiated for Alex Smith that we know of. Does that make Alex Smith a terrible player? Or is it maybe that the trade market is usually limited to the few teams that are interested and believe they have a shot.

Alex isn’t an all-pro like Peters and he Had just been benched.

Nowhere near as valuable as what Peters value is right now.

FloridaMan88 02-26-2018 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13438941)
“Winning teams find a way to make it work.”

Well isn’t that just ****ing dandy. So explain to the class why winning organizations like the Patriots, Steelers, Ravens and Seahawks didn’t talk to us about getting an all-pro corner on a cheap contract for a discount?

“Winning organizations” with stability of handling these types of players weren’t interested.

There’s your proof dumbasses

Wrong dumbshit.

There could by any number of reasons for why the teams you listed were not interested in trading for Peters... compensation, future salary cap considerations, etc.

But it most likely was not because they were afraid of taking on a high maintenance player because all of the teams you listed have won Super Bowls with high maintenance players.

SuperBowl4 02-26-2018 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 13437667)
You do not keep someone that doesn’t want to play for you or is causing a disruption with coaches. Period. You are pretending like you know/knew more than the chiefs office did which simply just isn’t true.

You say “they should have tried to work things out”. What gives you this impression that they haven’t been trying? Not many trade partners?? Hmm maybe That’s why thE chiefs traded him before it was too late? Maybe no one wants the nonfootball related problems he brings with himself.

In what way does this say the chiefs are spineless? It’s quite the opposite actually, they threw their huge dick on the table and said bye bye, we don’t take that shit around here...

Marcus Peters can take his gold shoes to Los Angeles. Kansas City was not a good fit for him. The kneeling during the anthem, the quitting and walking off the field during the GIANTS game, and him telling fans at ARROWHEAD to F.U.B., enough already. He ain't that good to put up with his S! Good Riddance MP.


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