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htismaqe 08-04-2005 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
Missouri would be a heck of a squad if Pinkel wasn't in charge.

Still, the division belongs to 3 teams. Colorado, Nebraska, and Kansas State. It hasn't been any other way. Those are the 3 teams that will remain in contention for the North title.

Wow. That's all I can say.

K-State has just as many question marks as any other team in the North. Automatically annointing them a contender is a bit homerish.

Missouri you already mentioned - Pinkel.

And Nebraska won't recover like you think. That excellent DC they brought in from Wisconsin took basically the same personnel and made a top 10 defense into a bottom 10 defense. Nebraska may finish LAST.

Saulbadguy 08-04-2005 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
Wow. That's all I can say.

K-State has just as many question marks as any other team in the North. Automatically annointing them a contender is a bit homerish.

Missouri you already mentioned - Pinkel.

And Nebraska won't recover like you think. That excellent DC they brought in from Wisconsin took basically the same personnel and made a top 10 defense into a bottom 10 defense. Nebraska may finish LAST.

Whens the last time ISU, Kansas, or Missouri has won the North? How about even contend for the title? Once every few years for ISU/MU. KU, never. Until they prove otherwise, like I said, it will be a 3 team division.

CU IMO has the best chance to repeat. They return most of their starters on offense, and just about all of them on defense. Nebraska is up in the air, but they are bringin in alot of JUCO talent that may fill their needs quickly. Kansas State has done the same thing.

ROYC75 08-04-2005 10:32 AM

This Chiefs thread has been hijacked by college football talk............

WilliamTheIrish 08-04-2005 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
Whens the last time ISU, Kansas, or Missouri has won the North? How about even contend for the title? Once every few years for ISU/MU. KU, never. Until they prove otherwise, like I said, it will be a 3 team division.

CU IMO has the best chance to repeat. They return most of their starters on offense, and just about all of them on defense. Nebraska is up in the air, but they are bringin in alot of JUCO talent that may fill their needs quickly. Kansas State has done the same thing.

The last time ISU contended for anything Dwayne Crutchfield was their RB.

Saulbadguy 08-04-2005 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish
The last time ISU contended for anything Dwayne Crutchfield was their RB.

Just a few years ago people said ISU would contend. The Seneca Wallace days. They did ok, but still got crushed by KSU, NU, and CU for the most part. McCarney isn't a good coach, and ISU has the smallest FB budget in the Big XII. Nothing will change that fact this year. They will remain a mediocre to bad team for awhile.

Kyle401 08-04-2005 11:10 AM

Meanwhile, back to the NFL.......

Seneca Wallace has been promoted to the #2 QB position for the Seahawks following the departure of Trent Dilfer. He is also fielding punt and kicks in practice.

ct 08-04-2005 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle401
Meanwhile, back to the NFL.......

Seneca Wallace has been promoted to the #2 QB position for the Seahawks following the departure of Trent Dilfer. He is also fielding punt and kicks in practice.

Very nice segway!

htismaqe 08-04-2005 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
Whens the last time ISU, Kansas, or Missouri has won the North? How about even contend for the title? Once every few years for ISU/MU. KU, never. Until they prove otherwise, like I said, it will be a 3 team division.

CU IMO has the best chance to repeat. They return most of their starters on offense, and just about all of them on defense. Nebraska is up in the air, but they are bringin in alot of JUCO talent that may fill their needs quickly. Kansas State has done the same thing.

ISU shared the North title last year and would have won it outright had they not lost to Mizzou by 3 point in OT.

htismaqe 08-04-2005 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
Just a few years ago people said ISU would contend. The Seneca Wallace days. They did ok, but still got crushed by KSU, NU, and CU for the most part. McCarney isn't a good coach, and ISU has the smallest FB budget in the Big XII. Nothing will change that fact this year. They will remain a mediocre to bad team for awhile.

KSU, NU, and CU aren't the same teams they were then.

ISU could finish 6-5 this year and still have a chance to win the North.

Kyle401 08-04-2005 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by coryt
Very nice segway!

Thanks!

jspchief 08-04-2005 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
Just a few years ago people said ISU would contend. The Seneca Wallace days. They did ok, but still got crushed by KSU, NU, and CU for the most part. McCarney isn't a good coach, and ISU has the smallest FB budget in the Big XII. Nothing will change that fact this year. They will remain a mediocre to bad team for awhile.

This year's ISU team will be a much more complete team than that teram with Wallace. The year they were good with Wallace, it was basically a one man show.

And if your only reason for saying they will suck is because they have been sh*tty for a long time, that's not much of a arguement. It's not like crappy schools don't occasionally get lucky and field good teams. I'm not saying ISU is neccessarily going to be good. They are just going to better than the rest of the crap in that division.

Besides, picking KSU to be good this year just shows what a sad homer you are.

I don't know why the fuck I'm sticking up for the Cyclowns. Iowa will snap them in half in mid October, leaving a pile of bones for the pathetic north to display their crapiness against.

htismaqe 08-04-2005 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief
This year's ISU team will be a much more complete team than that teram with Wallace. The year they were good with Wallace, it was basically a one man show.

And if your only reason for saying they will suck is because they have been sh*tty for a long time, that's not much of a arguement. It's not like crappy schools don't occasionally get lucky and field good teams. I'm not saying ISU is neccessarily going to be good. They are just going to better than the rest of the crap in that division.

If it's impossible for perennially crappy teams to win, what happened with Kansas State?

Oh yeah, that's right. The "perenially crappy team" argument is a LOAD OF CRAP.

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Originally Posted by jspchief
I don't know why the fuck I'm sticking up for the Cyclowns. Iowa will snap them in half in mid October, leaving a pile of bones for the pathetic north to display their crapiness against.

:rockon:

Saulbadguy 08-04-2005 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief
Besides, picking KSU to be good this year just shows what a sad homer you are.

Hey, they can't get much worst. I actually think CU will be the team to beat, not ISU. They return ALOT. I don't know why you Cyclone sympathizers overlook them.

Pants 08-04-2005 01:53 PM

Fujita? Not make the team? WTF?

htismaqe 08-04-2005 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
Hey, they can't get much worst. I actually think CU will be the team to beat, not ISU. They return ALOT. I don't know why you Cyclone sympathizers overlook them.

Cyclone sympathizer? I certainly hope you didn't get your degree at K-State, doesn't say much about them academically. They do teach basic reading and comprehension, right?

Posted TODAY at 11:13am by htismaqe
If it's that tempting, put your money where your mouth is.

Name 2 teams in the North that have, definitively, less questions than Iowa State.

I see Colorado. Who's the other?


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