You and me both.

So just because he's new and tend to agree he doesn't have a valid point.

Look you guys are like me... going to believe or think what you want. I'm just telling you some things from the opposite perspective. Take it for what it's worth or not. Interesting discussion.

Thanks.

It works both ways. Maybe someone sees my pasty flabby ass and thinks I'm a standup guy because I'm white. But if anything goes wrong anywhere, anyhow, I don't have any connections to keep it from all being taken away. My mom's a housewife [now working a Dilbert job at IRS, now that her children are grown]. My dad's a fabricator with an associate's degree in EE. My maternal grandparents were DIRT poor knockabouts, I'm talkng decades of the only income being grandpa's veteran's pension of $100-odd a month and what he got from stripping copper and aluminum out of what he drug out of the 'dump' [they have unattended, public places where you can just dump your trash in Louisiana]. My paternal grandparents, grandma was a housewife and grandpa worked 40 years repairing brakes on train cars for Mobil. Grandma's fairly well off, but that's because they saved like mofos each and every year, and their savings went into Mobil stock.
But it's not like I can go anywhere and people will say 'Oh, you're Baby Lee, Mr. Lee's son,' and get anywhere.

Wutamess, I have a serious question for you. I haven't finished reading the thread, so you might have covered it. But a couple of times you have mentioned that you feel the need to over-tip to counteract the perceived stereotype that African Americans don't tip well. Why do you feel that you need to do this? I would think that any person should just tip according to the service they receive. Don't you feel that you are furthering racial bias' by feeling that you need to "correct" others of your race?

I once ordered coffee from a Dunkin Donuts and I said I want it "black" then it felt like eyes were on me and it was awkward. I make sure I just say "no cream or sugar" if I say I want it "white" then they'll probably put too much milk in it

BTW, the video makes this whole ordeal even more absurd.

C'mon Wuta, The guy doesn't know his superfly-do-or-die from his midnight gatorade run. Lemme' have a little fun o:-)

Peace to you too.

You're lucky you don't have my grandmother. Everywhere we go she orders her coffee 'hot and black just like my men".

my dad is/was an alcoholic, albeit a functioning alcoholic who always had a job. my parents were both potheads until a few years ago (I think--they may still be). they lost their house because my mom is disabled (but not on disability, can't keep a job) and my dad isn't great with money. I'm putting myself through school, have worked full-time since I was fifteen years old, etc. every fucking thing that I have I've earned with my two hands and my back. fuck your silver spoon. I've had NOTHING handed to me, nor do I expect it. my relatives never owned slaves, they were poor southern cr@ckers who could barely afford a fucking mule. so you can take your entitlement and shove it up your ass.

Because if I make up for the shortcomings of some of my other people for a waitress I might end the stereotype. That waitress (or waiter) might take care of the next black patron. Plus on first glance... I dress like a damn bum most of the time so when we go out it's usually me & my wife with the 4 kids. I feel like if they didn't prejudge me and gives me excellent service despite the odds of them not getting a good tip (black family, bummy dressing dad w/ 4 kids) then I'll teach them a leseson to not judge a book by its cover.

Same concept as the guy that opened the door or acts nice to blacks while in the hood. He's trying to make a difference and show that not ALL people are like what he's "prejudged" to be.


Great ?

If the bitch(waitress)or bastard(waiter) is a racist, your extra $3 is not gonna change that.

My question is, why you give a rat's ass what some waitress, or anybody else thinks of you.

Get over it. Yeah the world's got some problems. People are not perfect, but a lot of the racism you find, is in your head. Kind of like a perceived "black hole".

Yeah... it's all in my head. I have no black friends. I've never met my family or just shoot the shit with everyday black people. I'm sorry I brought it up because I obviously have no idea what I'm talking about.

I apologize.

~over it.

Actually, here's a perfect example...

You guys remember the Michael Jordan's girlfriend thread?
And how you guys thought that it was full of racist banter?

Well that's what you're really dealing with.
I'm sorry if you guys have your blinders on.
Check the thread out in the pic thread.

No, it's not ALL in your head, but a lot of it is. I think the racism radar, my be set a little too high sometimes.

Dude, I guarandamntee 95% of black people 30+ think most whites are very capable of being racist.
Do I care about racism? No. Have I directly experienced it in my adult life? No.
Do I worry my ass of if one is racist or not? No.

Just throwing it out there.