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SBK 09-24-2008 03:42 PM

I guess if Stafford, Bradford and Sanchez all stayed in school I might lean toward Oher. That's about the only way.....

Tribal Warfare 09-24-2008 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SBK (Post 5050415)
So taking an OG with the #15 pick, that we traded up for. Again brilliant.




An All-pro year in and year out at position deserving of the 1st round pick, yeah!!!!!!! I believe it could work! If I remember correctly Steve Hutchinson was drafted in the 1st round at the #17 spot.

SBK 09-24-2008 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 5050421)
An All-pro year in and year out at position deserving of the 1st round pick, yeah!!!!!!! I believe it could work! If I remember correctly Steve Hutchinson was drafted in the 1st round at the #17 spot.

I wouldn't take a G in the first round, especially at 15. Just like I wouldn't take a C or a FB or a P or a K with a first round pick. There's a way to build a team properly, and then there's the way you recommend....

JimNasium 09-24-2008 03:47 PM

I see that Tribal Warfare is up to his usual draft shtick, gushing over a potential draftee as the greatest thing evah. The problem is that his record is not that great. If I recall he pimped Lelie as the next great WR and you would have thought that DJ was going to be the second coming of LT.

Tribal Warfare 09-24-2008 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SBK (Post 5050429)
I wouldn't take a G in the first round, especially at 15. Just like I wouldn't take a C or a FB or a P or a K with a first round pick. There's a way to build a team properly, and then there's the way you recommend....

without an O-line a team can't function period. So you are essentially saying picking a player with perrenial all pro potential is a bad idea. Like you said, BRILLIANT!

Pablo 09-24-2008 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SBK (Post 5050429)
I wouldn't take a G in the first round, especially at 15. Just like I wouldn't take a C or a FB or a P or a K with a first round pick. There's a way to build a team properly, and then there's the way you recommend....

I don't understand what people don't like about Albert. He's a great physical specimen and he's playing the position just like you'd want him too. There is nothing wrong with our incredibly young, talented LT. Nothing. Guards aren't drafted #15. They just aren't.

Tribal Warfare 09-24-2008 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JimNasium (Post 5050436)
I see that Tribal Warfare is up to his usual draft shtick, gushing over a potential draftee as the greatest thing evah. The problem is that his record is not that great. If I recall he pimped Lelie as the next great WR and you would have thought that DJ was going to be the second coming of LT.



That was the same year as John Henderson I believe, and I wanted that cat. We got Sims instead. Everyone thought DJ would be good, hell he was thought've as the #1 prospect in the draft at one point.

Pablo 09-24-2008 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 5050440)
without an O-line a team can't function period. So you are essentially saying picking a player with perrenial all pro potential is a bad idea. Like you said, BRILLIANT!

Without a QB that can stay healthy a team won't ever win anything. It doesn't matter if we drafted Oher and Robinson, and moved Albert back inside and bought a legit RT. Brodie's still going to get hit or pushed down at least once or twice a game even with an all-pro line. It's going to happen. Tom Brady has a pretty damn good line. He still got his knee crushed, and Brodie will get hurt again. It's just a matter of time.

I like Brodie. I wanted him to be the guy. He got hurt in the first half of the first *****ing game of the season. And he's out 5-6 weeks or whatever.

***** that noise. He'll make us a fine back-up. He'd be great to have coming off the bench, but it's not going to work with him suiting up to start each Sunday.

JimNasium 09-24-2008 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 5050443)
That was the same year as John Henderson I believe, and I wanted that cat. We got Sims instead. Everyone thought DJ would be good, hell he was thought've as the #1 prospect in the draft at one point.

I guess my point is that you nor I have absolutely no clue who will be a success and who will be a bust. Your annual manlove and passionate arguments seem silly as a result. JMO.

Tribal Warfare 09-24-2008 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoRox88 (Post 5050441)
I don't understand what people don't like about Albert. He's a great physical specimen and he's playing the position just like you'd want him too. There is nothing wrong with our incredibly young, talented LT. Nothing. Guards aren't drafted #15. They just aren't.

Steve Hutchinson was drafted at #17, and Ruban Brown was selected at #14.

milkman 09-24-2008 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JimNasium (Post 5050436)
I see that Tribal Warfare is up to his usual draft shtick, gushing over a potential draftee as the greatest thing evah. The problem is that his record is not that great. If I recall he pimped Lelie as the next great WR and you would have thought that DJ was going to be the second coming of LT.

In other words, he's full of it?

I've learned to simply ignore his obsessive gushing.

Talking to him is like talking to a tape recorder.

Pablo 09-24-2008 03:57 PM

Everyone had a mancrush on Oher last year.

He didn't come out.

Everyone has a mancrush on Bradford this year.

He probably won't come out.

The difference between this year and last is we were going to try Brodie out and see how he held up. He didn't. If Brodie stayed healthy I still wouldn't advocate drafting Oher, even if Brodie was going to be our QBOTF for sure.

Why? We have a left tackle, his name is Branden Albert. He is a very promising LT, and he looks to have the position down pretty well in 3 games!!!! You don't throw away the 15th pick on a G.

ChiefsCountry 09-24-2008 03:57 PM

Oher is about as sure thing at LT as possible. Would I take him over Stafford, yes but that is bc I dont think Stafford will be very good. Would I take him over Bradford. Hell no. Would I take him over Sanchez. Nope.

milkman 09-24-2008 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoRox88 (Post 5050449)
Without a QB that can stay healthy a team won't ever win anything. It doesn't matter if we drafted Oher and Robinson, and moved Albert back inside and bought a legit RT. Brodie's still going to get hit or pushed down at least once or twice a game even with an all-pro line. It's going to happen. Tom Brady has a pretty damn good line. He still got his knee crushed, and Brodie will get hurt again. It's just a matter of time.

I like Brodie. I wanted him to be the guy. He got hurt in the first half of the first *****ing game of the season. And he's out 5-6 weeks or whatever.

***** that noise. He'll make us a fine back-up. He'd be great to have coming off the bench, but it's not going to work with him suiting up to start each Sunday.

The Chiefs, during the 90s, had the best O-Line in the league next to the Boys, and what exactly did they win with the scrub QBs they trotted out there?

Tribal Warfare 09-24-2008 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoRox88 (Post 5050458)
Everyone had a mancrush on Oher last year.

He didn't come out.

Everyone has a mancrush on Bradford this year.

He probably won't come out.

The difference between this year and last is we were going to try Brodie out and see how he held up. He didn't. If Brodie stayed healthy I still wouldn't advocate drafting Oher, even if Brodie was going to be our QBOTF for sure.

Why? We have a left tackle, his name is Branden Albert. He is a very promising LT, and he looks to have the position down pretty well in 3 games!!!! You don't throw away the 15th pick on a G.


Look at my last post, both are perennial All-pros or were, did those teams make the wrong choice. Your argument doesn't make any sense, not picking a player on offense or defense that could dominate their position.


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