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GoTrav 10-11-2008 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5103362)
Mr. blueballs has a point ... not like a physical point point ... like an insightful, on target contribution to the topic point.

Let's say that we trade Gonzo. Let's say that he goes to a team that doesn't emphasize the TE position as a "go to" weapon on offense. Let's say that he sits on the bench a lot studying the playbook. Then, let's say that they go to the Super Bowl and win the dang thing. Gonzo will have a ring, sure. But, will it be satisfying? Will it be worth it? Since he didn't actually contribute to that objective, I mean?

FAX
If he plays in through the playoffs and in the SB then he deserves it and in no way will it be cheapened. It's not like he Huarded a ring.

Frankie 10-11-2008 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by rambleonthruthefog (Post 5103363)
i think your both fools. you play in the league for 10 yrs. work ur azz off for all of em. get traded. during your time there you make your blocks, catch the passes thrown your way, and still constantly work your azz off. you play 10 or 11 games with some guys and win a super bowl. it would most likely be one of the most gratifying points in his life.
Anybody who calls Mr. FAX a fool is my personal enemy!:grr:

Frankie 10-11-2008 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5103462)
Hmmm. So, let's say you were related to an independent director and he invited you on location to watch as his next movie was being shot. And, let's say you contributed absolutely nothing to the production of the film other than sitting around on the set, bitching, criticizing others, and misspelling simple words. Then let's say, when the Acadamy Awards rolled around, the movie won the Oscar for Best Picture. You're saying that you would feel just as satisfied and accomplished as the director or producer or lead actor or the other people who actually worked on the movie?

FAX
See? Wisdom just oozes out of this man.

Frankie 10-11-2008 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5103468)
Gonzalez is not worth less than Jeremy Shockey. No sir.
I agree. Position my ass, he is an NFL superstar.

milkman 10-11-2008 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 5103658)
Anybody who calls Mr. FAX a fool is my personal enemy!:grr:
I would never call Mr. Fax a fool, but if I ever even considered it, trust me, this would not deter me.

milkman 10-11-2008 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 5103675)
I agree. Position my ass, he is an NFL superstar.
Tony is a star, no doubt, but that doesn't change the fact that TE is one of the lowest value positions on the football field.

TrickyNicky 10-11-2008 11:10 AM
If the Gints offer their 2nd and 5th, call Philly and ask for a 2nd and 4th. If its a no go, pull the trigger. We can always use those as ammo to move around back into the first round if we absolutely covet someone.

Sure-Oz 10-11-2008 11:13 AM
Nothing new here but saw this on the ESPN bottomline..

Chiefs Tony Gonzalez inquires about a trade to a contender. ESPN's Micheal Smith reports, Chiefs are open to trading Tony Gonzalez before tuesday's trade deadline.

chop 10-11-2008 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5103476)

That being said, there's no way in hell I'm trading away the future for a guy that has 3 years of productivity left.
If the trade can enhance your position to win a Superbowl in those three years you do it. The Giants won the SB last year and are having a great year so far. If they think that making a move for a proven TE can ensure that get back then they make the deal. Having TG on the Giants makes them much tougher to beat IMO.

milkman 10-11-2008 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by chop (Post 5103922)
If the trade can enhance your position to win a Superbowl in those three years you do it. The Giants won the SB last year and are having a great year so far. If they think that making a move for a proven TE can ensure that get back then they make the deal. Having TG on the Giants makes them much tougher to beat IMO.
We'll never agree.

Giants won one without a star TE, and look better this year.

You don't trade away the future for a 3 year player, especially a TE.

S FLA CHIEFS FAN 10-11-2008 11:41 AM
JUST ANOTHER STUPID A## BY ARE EVER SO FOOTBALL WORTH GM QUEEN CARL AND HIS BAND OF MORONS

DaneMcCloud 10-11-2008 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5103962)
We'll never agree.

Giants won one without a star TE, and look better this year.

You don't trade away the future for a 3 year player, especially a TE.
The Giants have the extra draft choices to do it, so it certainly won't hurt them. Especially if Gonzalez helps them win at least one more Super Bowl (which would seem to be a certainty if he's traded).

Spott 10-11-2008 11:47 AM
We might as well trade TG. This team is never going anywhere with or without him.

OnTheWarpath15 10-11-2008 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5104061)
The Giants have the extra draft choices to do it, so it certainly won't hurt them. Especially if Gonzalez helps them win at least one more Super Bowl (which would seem to be a certainty if he's traded).
Wouldn't those extra draft choices be of more benefit to the Giants if they were used to fill holes, instead of using them for a luxury item?

Like Milkman said, the Giants won last year with Kevin Boss at TE.

They don't NEED Gonzalez to win a SB.

milkman 10-11-2008 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5104061)
The Giants have the extra draft choices to do it, so it certainly won't hurt them. Especially if Gonzalez helps them win at least one more Super Bowl (which would seem to be a certainty if he's traded).
The Giants would be crazy to give up more than a third for Tony, but if they offered that 2nd and fifthas has been suggested by Glazer, I'd be all over that like a pig on shit.


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