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Reerun_KC

12-23-2008 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 5325161)

But but but....his dad played for KU.

Fine, but he is situational role player, not an starter or meaningful minutes player...

Believe me, I love the kid and his hustle, but his place is coming off the bench for 5-8 min a game....

Mr. Plow

12-23-2008 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5325170)

Fine, but he is situational role player, not an starter or meaningful minutes player...

Believe me, I love the kid and his hustle, but his place is coming off the bench for 5-8 min a game....

Exactly. That's all I've been saying. Kid isn't "starting for KU" quality.

Reerun_KC

12-23-2008 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 5325162)

Understood.

Still, you guys know even if you did happen to suck this season... (What's "suck" for you, 3rd or 4th in the Big XII?)

It's a bit amusing when you're a fan of a rival team who's just hoping to become a bit of a threat again.

True... I guess we were just spoiled by the last 3 years.... Again this is a muligan year for KU... I can see them better by the end of the Big 12 conference play...

Maybe a 4-6 seed and a second round loss? Maybe if they progress like Selfs teams do, it could be a sweet 16 at best...

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka

12-23-2008 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5325166)

It will be reviewed and broken down.. Self will not stand for this kind of effort. But changes need to be made to the lineup, for the first time in the tenure of Coach Self, he really hasnt changed the lineup as much as before.. There seems to be less experimenting as usual....

Not alot of experimenting he can do; with Little hurt and freshmen all over the place he has not choice to coach with a baptism by fire attitude. What hurts is there is no real leadership on the team. Collins isn't it; yet. And Aldrich is no where experienced enough for it.

Reerun_KC

12-23-2008 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 5325171)

Exactly. That's all I've been saying. Kid isn't "starting for KU" quality.

I am just stumped that Q Thomas or Releford cant seem to log meaninful minutes over Reed and Morningstar?

KcMizzou

12-23-2008 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5325172)

True... I guess we were just spoiled by the last 3 years.... Again this is a muligan year for KU... I can see them better by the end of the Big 12 conference play...

Maybe a 4-6 seed and a second round loss? Maybe if they progress like Selfs teams do, it could be a sweet 16 at best...

I hate you.

One of these days...

Reerun_KC

12-23-2008 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs_Mike_Topeka (Post 5325173)

True... This Little injury is hurting us more than we actually realize... I guess what I mean by experimenting is.. Mixing the line ups with Thomas, Releford and Appleton...

But Self is about Defense and if you fail at D, you dont play..

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka

12-23-2008 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5325174)

I am just stumped that Q Thomas or Releford cant seem to log meaninful minutes over Reed and Morningstar?

I would suspect it is a practice issue and Bill rewarding good practice habits over talent. He did the same thing his first year and a half when he played Moody relentlessly.

Reerun_KC

12-23-2008 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 5325176)

I hate you.

One of these days...

I sorry, didnt mean to rub it in....

KC_Connection

12-23-2008 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs_Mike_Topeka (Post 5325168)

Really you couldn't see the BS fouls called on Taylor on the breakaway layup; or the BS foul called on Collins right after that on the drive to the basket?

So 2 fouls out of how many?

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Don't give me the shit about playing with energy being the reason you get the calls. It is lazy officiating and presuming a foul and not SEEING a foul. Too many refs blow the friggin whistle before a play even happens anticipating contact; perfect example was the Taylor foul.

You are letting your bias blind you here. As much as I'd like to blame the refs, they weren't the reason KU had so many. Arizona played very well and was able to draw them.

Reerun_KC

12-23-2008 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs_Mike_Topeka (Post 5325179)

I would suspect it is a practice issue and Bill rewarding good practice habits over talent. He did the same thing his first year and a half when he played Moody relentlessly.

Well he has proven his way works.... You cant question his tatics...

KcMizzou

12-23-2008 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5325181)

I sorry, didnt mean to rub it in....

No sweat.

The MU/KU games could be fun this season. That's not all I ask for... but it helps. :)

Ceej	12-23-2008 11:49 PM

The best news that came from this game is the simple fact that Sherron and Cole should come back for one more year.

Lzen	12-23-2008 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 5325163)

That should be pretty obvious to anybody by now.

Well, earlier in the season, I hadn't watched much of the KU basketball team. From few games or parts of games that I had seen, I thought you guys were just being overly critical. After seeing a few games, I now understand.

As for Releford: Kid does have some talent. He is a scorer. However, he still has a tendency to not block out on the rebound.

Reerun_KC

12-23-2008 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 5325185)

No sweat.

The MU/KU games could be fun this season. That's not all I ask for... but it helps. :)

That they should be, I am ready for conference play... We get the freaking kitties at home first... I cant wait...

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