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DeezNutz 02-18-2009 11:11 PM

Jay Cutler didn't start game 1. Midway through season 1.

dirk digler 02-18-2009 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5506058)
What leads you to believe that he isn't ready? How many games have you seen him play? All four quarters?

I readily admit I have only watched 2-3 games of him and I was very very impressed with his Rose Bowl performance.

The main reason is his lack of experience at playing QB in games.

DaneMcCloud 02-18-2009 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5506107)
Just my opinion but if you draft a QB in the Top 5 you are basically wanting them to be the starter on opening day or very, very soon after.

When was the last time a team drafted a QB in the Top 5 and let them sit for a year? That would be an interesting bit of information.

Carson Palmer and Philip Rivers. Eli Manning and Jay Cutler started at mid-season.

DeezNutz 02-18-2009 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 5506127)
Your comparison is better. Well done.

I do see a little Anderson in Stafford. Stafford did get screwed by his receivers running bad or incorrect routes and his line giving him Jordan Black time to throw the ball.

He has had to overcome adversity time and time again without changing his playing style. ALL of the great ones have this quality to pull the trigger however the game was going before.

Stafford is a ****ing great prospect. There should be an orgasm of epic proportions by all KC fans if the Chiefs select him at #3.

That said, I really, really like Sanchez.

DaneMcCloud 02-18-2009 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5506130)
I readily admit I have only watched 2-3 games of him and I was very very impressed with his Rose Bowl performance.

The main reason is his lack of experience at playing QB in games.

I don't think that'll be as big of factor as some are making it due to his impressive skill set (plays well under pressure, accurate, great footwork, strong arm but can throw the touch pass).

Think a shorter Troy Aikman (who many Chiefsplanet members think sucks LMAO).

philfree 02-18-2009 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5506105)
So, a guy that makes a bunch of plays in the ACC is suddenly worth the #3 overall pick?

Huh?

Apparently alot of people think he's worth a top five and one of the top three players in the draft. After watching the video I see why they think what they do. So is Curry worth a the 3rd pick in the 2009 draft? I think he is. I'd rather have Stafford and I'll certainly embrace Sanchez but with the way this draft stacks up he's worth the 3rd pick.

PhilFree:arrow:

notorious 02-18-2009 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5506134)
Stafford is a ****ing great prospect. There should be an orgasm of epic proportions by all KC fans if the Chiefs select him at #3.

That said, I really, really like Sanchez.

Elway ceiling. I hate comparing him to a Donk, but that is what I see Stafford being if he gets the right coaching and meets 100% of his potential. If not, I honestly see him being just an average QB, not a bust. He has overcome too much adversity in games playing at Georgia. That shows me that he will probably not bust in the NFL.

dirk digler 02-18-2009 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5506133)
Carson Palmer and Philip Rivers. Eli Manning and Jay Cutler started at mid-season.

Thanks. I was just curious and I am not trying to bash Sanchez I want a franchise QB. God knows this team finally needs to get one.

DaneMcCloud 02-18-2009 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 5506140)
Apparently alot of people think he's worth a top five and one of the top three players in the draft. After watching the video I see why they think what they do. So is Curry worth a the 3rd pick in the 2009 draft? I think he is. I'd rather have Stafford and I'll certainly embrace Sanchez but with the way this draft stacks up he's wirththe 3rd pick.

PhilFree:arrow:

I wouldn't be shocked to see Curry slip to the Browns.

#3 overall is just too high for a cover linebacker who doesn't rush the passer, doesn't have elite speed and played in the ACC. I'm not saying he won't be a solid pro but at #3, you better get a superstar, not just a lunch pail guy.

ChiefsCountry 02-18-2009 11:17 PM

I think Maybin or Brown will be taken higher than Curry.

doomy3 02-18-2009 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5506145)
I wouldn't be shocked to see Curry slip to the Browns.

#3 overall is just too high for a cover linebacker who doesn't rush the passer, doesn't have elite speed and played in the ACC. I'm not saying he won't be a solid pro but at #3, you better get a superstar, not just a lunch pail guy.

This holds true for ALL positions, so if the Chiefs do draft Sanchez, he better be a top 5 NFL QB.

DeezNutz 02-18-2009 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 5506142)
Elway ceiling. I hate comparing him to a Donk, but that is what I see Stafford being if he gets the right coaching and meets 100% of his potential.

Agreed. Completely.

Mecca 02-18-2009 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5506153)
I think Maybin or Brown will be taken higher than Curry.

Don't worry man we'll take Curry on our quest back to 8-8.

bigdreams1 02-18-2009 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5505502)
Since I'm seeing people starting to lean that way I really want to know...he's not a rusher 9 1/2 sacks in 4 years...he has nearly as many INT's as he does sacks over the course of his college career...

Does this mean he's a bad player no it doesn't, but the type of LB he is does not make him worth a top 5 pick. Fathom this Ernie Sims was taken 10 as a traditional 4-3 OLB he's a very nice player...is he a difference maker up in Detroit, he's not. And it can be easily argued that he's more naturally gifted than Curry is..the OLB position in a 4-3 is not a game changing core position.

Not to mention you could sign the #1 LB on the market of FA for half of what you'd have to pay Curry to do the same thing.

Thank God someone said it. Bart Scott>Aaron Curry you pick! I don't see any other option than to draft Sanchez or Stafford with this pick.

DeezNutz 02-18-2009 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5506154)
This holds true for ALL positions, so if the Chiefs do draft Sanchez, he better be a top 5 NFL QB.

Ideally, sure.

But this is where you get into arguments about overall positional value. Remember Rain Man's thread about how many Pro Bowls a QB would need to make to be equal value to Will Shields?

And what was ****ing stupid is that otherwise intelligent posters were voting for shit like 7 or 8.

Are you ****ing kidding me? No one can be this ****ing dense when it comes to the QB position.

Sorry in advance to anyone that voted even somewhat high on this poll. Interesting sentence construction by me. Being high would be the only excuse I'm accepting.


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