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jAZ 12-30-2009 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by truebigdog (Post 6392738)
I don't know that you understand how D1 scholarships work, a players cannot lose a scholarship "just because". If there are not documented circumstances of refusal to participate, illegal activity, or such as that it is fairly hard to terminate one.

Now they CAN be reduced rather easily, but that's a whole different animal.

I'm sure you are right. I'm speaking in broad strokes, no doubt. I defer to just about anyone in the know on the details.

Old Dog 12-30-2009 04:51 PM

Some have said that he couldn't sit either, but if there was an excercise bike in the room for his use, wouldln't that have allowed him to sit?

sportsman1 12-30-2009 04:54 PM

If he was cut there is no doubt Craig James would have cried foul and the same result would have happened. It is really unprofessional that ESPN through all of this continues to give him a forum.

DaneMcCloud 12-30-2009 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon (Post 6392710)
If Leach would have kicked him off the team, the same thing would have happened. So, say Leach kicks Adam off the team and takes his scholarship away. Daddy Craig goes and complains to AD and leaks everything to his buddies at ESPN. ESPN runs with it. Tech's AD fires Leach "with cause" for mistreating an injured player.

So what you're telling us is that Leach had no choice, right?

Why did he even sign a contract extension?

Why didn't he just quit?

Wow, poor Mike Leach!

:facepalm:

38yrsfan 12-30-2009 04:54 PM

Texas Tech went too far in its firing of Mike Leach
 
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont....2cf78a00.html

For the record: Craig James didn’t get Mike Leach fired. Neither did his son or ESPN or anyone else on the periphery of Texas Tech’s football program.

He won, graduated his players, didn’t attract the attention of the NCAA and still managed to generate controversy. In short, he was a lot like a basketball coach Tech once employed.
The difference between Leach’s situation and Bob Knight’s was that Gerald Myers liked Knight.

jAZ 12-30-2009 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 6392724)
"Your honor these athletes are conditioned from the time they are young boys that a coach's word is law. By the time they get to college that belief is so deeply ingrained as to become a virtual physical law. They may not have been the kind of locks you can see your honor but the instant Coach Leach ordered that concussed, confused young man to stay in that shed there were locks on that door all the same.The kind of locks that can't be broken, can't be picked, the kind that can only be removed by the same coach who placed them there in the first place."

"Your honor, with all due respect to the court and my opposing collegue, I submit this long list of witnesses including current and former players and coaches who will testify to witnessing first hand how Adam James repeatedly refused to follow the word of his coaches. That's exactly what this case is about. A entitled student who felt his lineage of privlege permitted him to do everything he could to avoid following the coaching instructions that were given to players. The injury to this player was respected, and he was told the remain standing along side all of his teammates in a location that would be certain to protect him from harsh lighting."

jAZ 12-30-2009 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 38yrsfan (Post 6392762)
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont....2cf78a00.html

For the record: Craig James didn’t get Mike Leach fired. Neither did his son or ESPN or anyone else on the periphery of Texas Tech’s football program.

He won, graduated his players, didn’t attract the attention of the NCAA and still managed to generate controversy. In short, he was a lot like a basketball coach Tech once employed.
The difference between Leach’s situation and Bob Knight’s was that Gerald Myers liked Knight.

Yep.

DaneMcCloud 12-30-2009 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jAZ (Post 6392772)
"Your honor, with all due respect to the court and my opposing collegue, I submit this long list of witnesses including current and former players and coaches who will testify to witnessing first hand how Adam James repeatedly refused to follow the word of his coaches. That's exactly what this case is about. A entitled student who felt his lineage of privlege permitted him to do everything he could to avoid following the coaching instructions that were given to players. The injury to this player was respected, and he was told the remain standing along side all of his teammates in a location that would be certain to protect him from harsh lighting."

While a student stood outside the room, guarding him from exiting.

That's not ominous at all, is it?

jAZ 12-30-2009 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by truebigdog (Post 6392752)
Some have said that he couldn't sit either, but if there was an excercise bike in the room for his use, wouldln't that have allowed him to sit?

Leach told the trainer to clean out the room of anything that he would be able to sit or lean on to be sure that didn't happen.

jAZ 12-30-2009 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6392777)
While a student stood outside the room, guarding him from exiting.

That's not ominous at all, is it?

Guarding him to make sure he didn't sit down. He was a snitch, hardly a locked door.

jAZ 12-30-2009 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jAZ (Post 6392783)
Guarding him to make sure he didn't sit down. He was a snitch, hardly a locked door.

Like all of the coaches doing for all of the rest of the team that stayed on the field hitting in full pads in the full Texas sun.

vailpass 12-30-2009 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 38yrsfan (Post 6392762)
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont....2cf78a00.html

For the record: Craig James didn’t get Mike Leach fired. Neither did his son or ESPN or anyone else on the periphery of Texas Tech’s football program.

He won, graduated his players, didn’t attract the attention of the NCAA and still managed to generate controversy. In short, he was a lot like a basketball coach Tech once employed.
The difference between Leach’s situation and Bob Knight’s was that Gerald Myers liked Knight.

You mess with the bull you get the horns.

DaneMcCloud 12-30-2009 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jAZ (Post 6392783)
Guarding him to make sure he didn't sit down. He was a snitch, hardly a locked door.

There isn't a judge or jury in the United States of America that will condone Leach's actions in this case.

Not one.

Extra Point 12-30-2009 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6392805)
There isn't a judge or jury in the United States of America that will condone Leach's actions in this case.

Not one.

Just because.

mlyonsd 12-30-2009 05:11 PM

This whole thing is just bizarre.


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