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DeezNutz 02-15-2010 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6535534)
Actually Pioli drafted Chad Pennington in the first round.

The Assistant Director of Player Personnel is a powerful position...in NE.

RustShack 02-15-2010 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6535539)
Pioli didnt work for the Jets in 2000.

Not for the season, but he did for the draft and before it.

Titty Meat 02-15-2010 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6535545)
The Assistant Director of Player Personnel is a powerful position...in NE.

From everything I read he played in a part in trading for Welker and Moss.

RustShack 02-15-2010 11:36 PM

I also like how some people are treating Cassel as a rookie. If he was a project that needed time there is no reason not to draft the younger and far more talented project that needs time.

Saccopoo 02-15-2010 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6535537)
I really wish the Aids Tree would hit you full force, you make CoMo and Hootie look like geniuses.

You are the reerun claiming that Sanchez is the ultimate QBOTF Franchise guy after his complete shit bag of a season.

Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl.

Rex Grossman got to a Super Bowl.

Because they went deep into the playoffs, are they the ultimate franchise type quarterback? Because you are using that sole qualifier for Sanchez. A guy with a 63 rating and a whopping 12 TDs.

DeezNutz 02-15-2010 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6535554)
From everything I read he played in a part in trading for Welker and Moss.

Yeah, I was speaking only about the Pennington acquisition. I didn't think they overlapped b/c Pioli was off to NE in 2000.

I'm not 100 percent on this. Could be wrong.

RustShack 02-15-2010 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6535554)
From everything I read he played in a part in trading for Welker and Moss.

The Pioli haters like to pretend the GM does everything without the help of the guys he hired to do that stuff.

DeezNutz 02-15-2010 11:41 PM

From my perspective, the "Pioli haters" want to see some evidence that the mother****er can put together a string of strong moves on his own.

He simply couldn't have had a worse '09. Now let's see him rebound.

Titty Meat 02-15-2010 11:41 PM

Meh even if he drafted Pennington it's not much to write home about. I hope this source is right though this will draw a clear distinction between Pioli and Peterson.

Titty Meat 02-15-2010 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6535568)
From my perspective, the "Pioli haters" want to see some evidence that the mother****er can put together a string of strong moves on his own.

He simply couldn't have had a worse '09. Now let's see him rebound.

This. Pioli looks to be off to a good start by hiring Crennel & Weis, I don't remember the last time the Chiefs didn't have cordinators who were "Yes Sir" guys.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-16-2010 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 6534514)
you can't use pickle again you ****ing idiot

Yeah Dante, you ****in' Dill-hole. :)

Ralphy Boy 02-16-2010 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6535012)
If I was Clark Hunt I would have fired Pioli the second after he made that trade, or just slapped the shit out of him the moment he propsed it.

There was nothing wrong with the trade, it was the contract that pissed me off.

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6535051)
Its funny how everybody forgets about his days in New England when he had that talent, and still wasn't that good.

Wasn't that good? 10 & 5 as a starter with a 63.4% completion %, 3,693 yards passing, 21 TD to 11 INT and a 89.4 QB rating is pretty good for a guy that NEVER started a game in the NFL or College until that season.


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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6535077)
The numbers support the claims.

Cassel, at best, is average.

Uh, ok.
Cassel's first 2 years starting: AVG QB Rating 79.6, 6,617 yards, 37 TD's, 27 INT's.
Favre's first 2 years starting: AVG QB Rating 78.8, 6,503 yards, 37 TD's, 37 INT's.

Not saying he's Favre, but "numbers" don't support your opinion.

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6535103)
It wasn't that great of a season. It was a bunch of screen passes to Welker and Moss to break for YAC. He was average as best that year, not to mention he sucked even worst this year when he had the better OL, better running game and better WRs.

Better OL? Better WR's? WTF are you talking about?

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6535498)
I'm sure he will, but he's playing behind one of, if not the, best offensive lines in the NFL and had the #1 rated defense to cover his ass. But yet, he threw for 500 yards less than Cassel and had four less touchdowns, four more interceptions and a substantially lower quarterback rating. Cassel played behind the worst offensive line in football, had no defense to rely on, and his receivers led the league in drops. But he still had a better year than Sanchez, and people around here are ready to tar and feather Matt. You put Sanchez on this Chiefs team and think about what his stats would have looked like. If he could only throw for 2400 yards and a 63 QB rating on that Jets team, how bad would it have been here? But the vast majority of this board is more than happy to crucify Cassel.

Nice work.

Mecca 02-16-2010 01:26 AM

To compare a 22 year old rookie to a 27 year old player is dipshittery at it's finest.

And to this point, Pioli is nothing more than Dayton Moore, a big name candidate who came from a winning organization that has shown exactly nothing to date.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-16-2010 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 6534686)
if you want clausen then just ****ing draft him, you dip shits....

or...or...we could wait and see if the QB we want drops 25 ****ing picks and then say "damn...oh well" when someone sane takes him in front of us...

we've already lost one QB because of Cassel...why not pass on the 2nd....

excuse me while i reach through my asshole to pull my penis back out through my ass in a dramatic rendering of how this franchise makes decisions when it comes to the most important player on the field...

Do you own an IHOP? You should. Your ability to flip-flop could elevate the humble pancake to Spago-like artistry.

The Bad Guy 02-16-2010 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6535397)
Yes it does, it proves stats don't mean jack shit when it comes to a QB.

This might be the biggest bullshit post ever on here.

I know Cassel sends you into a spastic trance that is hard to break out of, but good lord almighty.

Stats mean nothing when it comes to a QB? How do you even type such bullshit?

It shows me, that you will write anything just to defend Sanchez.


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