Ah.... and Cowher to Dallas?

LMAO

So true Mr. FAX.

I heard this, too.

Well, I don't see how they can just keep him and pretend like Childress didn't say he was gone. No way Moss doesn't get released. It's just a matter of making it official.

I mentioned this earlier elsewhere. I'm not looking at this from the standpoint of a "moral police officer". I don't actually have a problem with Moss. But the fact remains that he does have a track record. I thought the original move made sense in New England, because he was joining an established championship team with veteran players and veteran leadership. The Chiefs are not that, not yet. They're a team that's trying to turn around a losing mindset that's more than a decade old (yes, I'm including the Vermeil years). They're trying to establish a roster-wide attitude of "team first" as demonstrated by the way they publicly dealt with Bowe, DJ and Dorsey last year, and have dealt (some would argue; I don't necessarily agree) to some degree with Charles this year. They are trying to build the Chiefs into what New England was at the point where they brought Moss on board. Now, there's no question about Moss' talent, even at his age. What I think needs to be questioned is what kind of impact he might have on the team chemistry at this point of the rebuild. Cassel is not Brady. The team does not have championships, doesn't even, in fact, have a winning tradition, they don't really have any veteran leadership outside of Vrabel and Thomas Jones, and Moss, himself, goes directly against the mold into which they're trying to form their stars of the future (Moss mentoring Bowe...?).

So the question is - and this is the question Pioli and Haley would theoretically have to figure out - do Moss' positives (talent...) outweigh his negatives (...) for a team like Kansas City where they are *right now*?

I think if I'm a veteran playoff team with an established core of players, I'm on the phone already (let's say Moss joins Manning in Indy...). If I'm us, I just don't know. I'm glad it's not a decision I have to make.

Maybe Childress won't be around. But you are probably right.

It's not his morality I don't like, I just think if Belichick thinks he's better off without the guy there might be something to it. If this report is true, another team couldn't stand having him around for a month. Not to say I'm not intrigued by the possibility.

Don't like this. Not one bit.

We're doing a great job of teaching these young kids really great habits. Mistake-free football and playing your ****ing ass off every single down. Our best chance of winning this year is conditioning, hustle, and discipline.

What Moss does for our team is give us a legit deep threat and open underneath stuff for McCluster, where I think he could be an absolute demon. Here's the rub. We are a great run offense with receivers who block the shit out of defenses--Moss doesn't block. Moss' only route that he runs well is a 9 route deep--we don't have a QB who can get it to him consistently and accurately. Our offense is built around chewing time off the clock. We will not win in a shootout--Moss' only reason for being is to be the deep guy. Our goal is to win playoff games--Moss isn't a guy who has shown he will put in an A effort when it matters most.

Then add in the fact that he's a walking distraction, doesn't seem to care about the game anymore, doesn't really care about winning, and his attitude could completely undermine some of the great leadership we have in the locker room. Surprised we'd want to compromise that so we can win a few more regular season games today... maybe.

This is why you're wrong.

In fact, it's why you're usually wrong.

This has nothing to do with winning a few more regular season games.

It has absolutely everything to do with winning a playoff game and being a true threat to do damage against good teams. Can you imagine how different the Indy game is if Moss is going up for that jump ball instead of Bowe? Don't you think we could've put the Houston game out of reach?

Winning 3 games in January against premier opponents is a very difficult task and it's not something you're going to do with an offense that presents absolutely no threat further downfield than 15 yards. Safeties will crash the box, LBs won't respect the seams, corners will press cover so they can offer better run support.

You cannot afford to be one-dimensional against good teams and this move would help us eliminate that.

It's not about winning regular season games. It's about being relevant in January - a feeling we haven't had in 40 years and something that's not likely to happen with the philosophy you're espousing.

Cowher or Gruden

P.S. I think he will probably be a Colt or Seahawk

That's when it would START being fun.

I think it was an offensive philosphy shift more than it was his attitude. The Patriots have gone small ball again.

I think his attitude does suck at times, but I've yet to see a team that completely folded because of Randy.

This team needs a verticle threat in the worst way. It's the perfect talent fit.

While I agree he should have held back...he didn't say anything bad about the Vikings. He was paying tribute to his last team, and it was relevant because they played them. I don't see how this is a "bad cancer". I guess I just don't see Moss in the same light as TO.

I didn't watch the Pats game, but unless he tanked the game on purpose so the Pats would win is about the only way I would support Minnesota just flat out waiving Moss. It's just stupid. Now they gave the Patriots a 3rd round draft pick w/out getting anything in return.

IMO I can see Miami taking him off of waivers so the Jets and or Patriots can't sign him ..........