I recommend the Ruger and Fraz probably would too.

They shoot great and aren't pricey.

He paid 300 new, I paid 280 used.

love my glock, sig, smith,and baretta

This.


And I'm sure you were taught the correct way to handle guns. People that didn't grow up with them can be dangerous as hell.

Ruger P95 is the pistol I was talking about earlier. Wonderful gun. And for what you'd pay for just the Glock, you could get a Ruger fully tricked out with a top of the line laser sight and holster. See below.

Safety is part of it for sure, but probably the bigger reason I have guns just because I love them! Hell I'd have even more if it weren't such an expensive hobby.

Thanks that sounds like the right fit for me. So I should expect to pay right around the $300 range for a P95?

I recommend you buy the glock, and then fall in love with the Ruger. Such blinding love that you give the glock to me.

haha I will let you know if that happens.

Personal defense has never been my reasoning for owning firearms. I just love to shoot. Whether it's hunting or just plinking at some tin cans. Started at the age of 6 with a trusty Daisy BB gun and about 3 square miles of Kansas wilderness. And I've just grown my collection since then. I can't say that any gun I've bought has been for the sole purpose of home defense. I've got several that would work well for it if need be, but they weren't bought for that reason.

That's exactly what Bud's is selling them for.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/18161

The stainless is about $20 more, but I didn't give a shit about that.

I do highly recommend you get the Model 3 grip. Well worth the $11.

http://www.pistoleer.com/pachmayr/slipon_grips/

AK or SKS? Which would you guys recommend?

I would go with the AK, even though I own a SKS(which I love).

If you buddy can line up, or rent, several different guns for you to try would be your best bet. Most pistols from major manufacturers are safe and reliable. Next to cost, comfort and feel are the most important considerations. Frazod loves his Ruger, the width, grip size, etc. might make it a miserable experience for me to shoot. You never know for sure until you take it for a test drive.

http://nwatactical.com/images/sig-55...wat-diopte.jpgIs on the way. :D

Hell yeah bro

Been trying to talk my S.O. to get one with our income tax, she thinks we need a couch instead.