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chiefzilla1501 11-23-2011 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8135187)
Bullshit. The #1 symptom of blowout losses is not being adequately prepared. This is the modern NFL. Shitty teams are competing with good teams every week because of parity.

You people don't want to blame Haley for ANYTHING.

We are outmatched against playoff teams. Talent wise.
And we have a an that can't beat teams who score more than 20 points.

We only win games when our team plays at 200 percent. When your team can only won with heart and rarely wins on talent, that's a reflection on the gm who is responsible for personnel decisions.

Red Beans 11-23-2011 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8135181)
Chan Gailey.

We would be far better off with that guy coaching this team. At any position.

Plus, we didn't even try to hire an OC this past offseason. Haley didn't even practice due diligence. Muir is a farce of a hire.

Please... Are you serious? He's marginally better than Muir. I'm not saying the Muir deal wasn't BS, but to say Gailey is a quality OC is abusrd. He's a middle of the road NFL retread.

Look at the numbers - http://www.pro-football-reference.co...es/GailCh0.htm

His offenses haven't been worth a shit since the end of the 90's. He's a below average OC at best...

The fact that he was on staff when Haley got here is the problem...

chiefzilla1501 11-23-2011 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8135181)
Chan Gailey.

We would be far better off with that guy coaching this team. At any position.

Plus, we didn't even try to hire an OC this past offseason. Haley didn't even practice due diligence. Muir is a farce of a hire.

Gailey is a great offensive mind. Little evidence that he's great at leading a team. People forget that managing players and the team is the most critical function of a head coach. John harbaugh and Mike McCarthy arent the brightest playcallers in football. But they are exceptional at managing their teams.

Hammock Parties 11-23-2011 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Beans (Post 8135219)
His offenses haven't been worth a shit since the end of the 90's. He's a below average OC at best...


He has the Bills 10th in the league in points, and the Cowboys were 9th and 11th in the league in points. He took a shit sandwich and made it palatable in KC in the last half of 2008.

Do I need to bring up:

His 8th ranked Miami offense?

His 11th and 7th ranked Steelers offenses?

Chan Gailey and Bill Muir are not on the same planet in terms of coaching ability.

Hammock Parties 11-23-2011 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8135230)
Bailey is a great offensive mind. Little evidence that he's great at leading a team.

I didn't say he should be HC, just that he could have been OC here and would have easily been a better HC than Haley.

Red Beans 11-23-2011 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8135231)
He has the Bills 10th in the league in points, and the Cowboys were 9th and 11th in the league in points. He took a shit sandwich and made it palatable in KC in the last half of 2008.

Do I need to bring up:

His 8th ranked Miami offense?

His 11th and 7th ranked Steelers offenses?

Chan Gailey and Bill Muir are not on the same planet in terms of coaching ability.

He has the Bills 10th in the league as head coach, with 6 games left in the season, it'll drop to 15 by the end.

All the other shit you bring up is a decade old. The NFL had past both Muir and Gailey by. Neither one is relevant.

To say that Gailey is that much better than Muir is like saying a blow job is from your sister is better than a blowjob from your mom. It may be slightly better for your psyche, but that doesn't make it any more right.

We'd be no better off with Chan than Muir right now.

Hammock Parties 11-23-2011 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Beans (Post 8135246)
He has the Bills 10th in the league as head coach, with 6 games left in the season, it'll drop to 15 by the end.

LMAO

Now Gailey sucks because you have a crystal ball.

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All the other shit you bring up is a decade old.
Really? 2008 is 10 years ago? Really?

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We'd be no better off with Chan than Muir right now.
I agree, because Haley can't co-exist with anyone. That's why FIRE HIS ASS.

Red Beans 11-23-2011 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8135252)
LMAO

Now Gailey sucks because you have a crystal ball.



Really? 2008 is 10 years ago? Really?




I agree, because Haley can't co-exist with anyone. That's why FIRE HIS ASS.


No, he has always sucked. It's like prediciting your behavior on CP. No one needs a crystal ball to do that.

He was OC in Miami in 2001 with that 8th ranked O. In 2008 he and Herm were piloting the turdship at One Arrowhead Dr.

Hammock Parties 11-23-2011 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Beans (Post 8135262)
In 2008 he and Herm were piloting the turdship at One Arrowhead Dr.

And he got that turd Thigpen to lead an offense that scored 22 points a game.

He is not Bill Muir.

chiefzilla1501 11-23-2011 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8135181)
Chan Gailey.

We would be far better off with that guy coaching this team. At any position.

Plus, we didn't even try to hire an OC this past offseason. Haley didn't even practice due diligence. Muir is a farce of a hire.

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8135232)
I didn't say he should be HC, just that he could have been OC here and would have easily been a better HC than Haley.

I think a head coach should have some say in what system he runs. The front office keeps forcing their guys onto him. And then we blame Haley because they don't get along.

Red Beans 11-23-2011 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8135270)
And he got that turd Thigpen to lead an offense that scored 22 points a game.

He is not Bill Muir.

That may be, but imagine if he had continued to run the Thigbone. Gimmick offense equals initial results, but no lasting success....

Hammock Parties 11-23-2011 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8135274)
I think a head coach should have some say in what system he runs.

I do, too.

He should also be blamed for making shitty decisions.

chiefzilla1501 11-23-2011 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8135252)
LMAO

Now Gailey sucks because you have a crystal ball.



Really? 2008 is 10 years ago? Really?



I agree, because Haley can't co-exist with anyone. That's why FIRE HIS ASS.

Bullshit. He gets along well wig his entire staff and the players love him.

He wants to call plays. Let him. If he sinks, that's on him. If you hire an oc, give him say in who we hire. This front office is forcing him to work with the wrong people.

Red Beans 11-23-2011 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8135283)
Bullshit. He gets along well wig his entire staff and the players love him.

He wants to call plays. Let him. If he sinks, that's on him. If you hire an oc, give him say in who we hire. This front office is forcing him to work with the wrong people.

This makes sense.

Hammock Parties 11-23-2011 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8135283)
If you hire an oc, give him say in who we hire.

TODD HALEY HIRED BILL MUIR.

What part of this do you not understand?


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