Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8203190)

The three players you brought up that I named in my followup post.

I wouldn't label Donnie an underachiever.
He was simply overrated by Chief fans.

But regardless of the label, blame for his departure falls more to Carl than Dick.

And I'd guess that the primary reason that you would draft D and sign O in free agency is that it's generally thought that rookies can assimilate defense and have an impact quicker than offensive skill position players.

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 8203212)

He wouldn't spend money on the defense. He would let a lot of the defensive players go to get money to put towards the offensive players he wanted to bring in. JMO . then we would try and draft some more defensive players.

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 8203225)

Wow I wouldn't call Chester, Dan Williams, or Duane Clemons underachievers. Dan may have been injured and took plays off but he was good. Not to mention my original point is that we had a lot of cap space in those players.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8203228)

They spent quite a bit of money on Shawn Barber, he was one of the first guys signed by any team that offseason.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8203239)

Chet had the talent to be the most dominating DT in the game, and never lived up to that ability.

Dan Williams got paid, and his production plummted.

Clemons, maybe not an underachiever, but he really wasn't all that good.

They were all disposable.

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 8203023)

Chester McGlocklin, Dan Williams, Donnie Edwards, Duane Clemons.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8203266)

Wow, you're all over the place.

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 8203272)

No you didn't! Dan Williams would not suit up, he had been paid and was done. He was a lazy ****.

Like it was yesterday, I can still hear Vermeil saying, "I don't know what his problem is."

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 8203283)

As I recall Dan was injured. Hmmm did he retire.

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 8203271)

Maybe for some teams in the NFL, but not for this one at that time. Do you think that Tyson Jackson, Kelly Gregg, and Glenn Dorsey are better than that DLine. Understanding a difference from 4-3 to 3-4. I am not sure that we have a line that was that good even now.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8203295)

This D-line is better.

Tamba Hali and Justin Houston, the last couple of weeks, don't get to the QB if the D-Line isn't doing their job.

DJ and Bellcher aren't run stuffers if the D-Line isn't doing their job.

That line that consisted of Chet, Williams and Clemons should have been a dominating group.

They weren't.

They were owned and abused.

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 8203308)

The biggest memory I have since that old DLine is what seems as a lifetime of Eric Hicks. Man our line was really bad after those guys were gone.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8203400)

I don't get the hate for Dorsey and Jackson. They have played pretty well this season.

A big block eating NT makes them that much better. I'm endorsing bringing in Soliai from Miami. He could play that part.