Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9179139)

Lamar Hunt had been suffering from cancer for almost a decade before he passed away. Carl Peterson was in charge of the Chiefs at that time and made an executive decision to draft LJ. Vermeil wanted Tyler Brayton and expressed that publicly.

I honestly believe that if Lamar Hunt was aware of Johnson's transgressions, he would not have been drafted. I also believe that if Clark Hunt, who at the time had little to noting to do with the Chiefs had known, Johnson wouldn't have been selected.

Originally Posted by pkane (Post 9179671)

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Till 1am or 7am. I don't think its normal to leave a 2.5 month old with the babysitter until those hours.

Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58 (Post 9179676)

you probably didnt have to work at 930 in the morning the next day when u went out though.

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9179681)

So you think that the Hunts didn't know about Larry Johnson (their star player and first round draft pick) and his very public run-ins with the law, but they knew enough about Jovan Belcher (an UDFA JAG from Maine) to think that a murder-suicide was in the cards?

Originally Posted by KCWolfman (Post 9179659)

His mother (who just came into town) was with the baby, and probably having a ball doing it.

Originally Posted by KCWolfman (Post 9179659)

I went out without my kids after they were born. It is normal.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9179661)

That was kind of my point earlier this morning.

And it isn't just this board.

The fanbase is fractured. The tipping point HAS to be right around the corner.

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9179287)

My original statement was that "the Hunt family doesn't tolerate people like Belcher."

They don't.

Larry Johnson's ass was cut as soon as he showed he wasn't worth putting up with.

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel (Post 9179691)

I have the feeling that his mom moved in with Kasi from NY specifically because neither one of then were capable of rearing a child.



When you sent out, did you stay out until 7AM when you had to be at work that morning?? Did you get so shithouse drunk that you passed out in your car??

Not being self-righteous; just pointing out a pattern of irresponsible behavior that could have been completely avoided had either (or both!!) had the basic common human decency of staying home with their kid. Not to mention going to meetings and walk-through.

It just seems like no one has personal accountability anymore; call it self-righteous, whatever...but I have not killed my daughter's mother. And I won't. We didn't get along so much after she was born...and we got a ****ing divorce.

Like 'normal' people.

I didn't kill her. Call that 'self-righteous' if you want, I guess...

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel (Post 9179629)

Well, at least those two weren't.

It's absolutely true; Ol' Kasi shouldn't have been at some crappy Rhyme N' Bass lusty soft-porn sleaze fest, and Daddy Jovan shouldn't have been out getting drunk and chasing the muff around.

At 1AM, with a 3-month old baby...any decent human beings would have been home asleep with their kid. Especially when one of them has to be at the team facility in a few hours for a team meeting then a walkthrough.

Like, you'd think Belcher would've wanted to be home with his daughter and get rested up so he could put all his energy into trying to win an upcoming game...but in reality, fans probably care more about the games than the majority of players (like Belcher.)

Hate to sound callous, but **** Jovan and Kasi. Selfish fools, natural selection's a bitch. Stay home with your kid, get rested for work. 'Hanging in da club' is about the most ridiculous crock of horseshit anyway. Trey Songz is ****ing terrible; generic, sophmoric digitized BS that is literally about nothing more than intercourse (every. single. song.) If you have no culture, no couth...if you watch garbage, listen to garbage and do garbage thigs, your life will probably be garbage, too.

Stay home with your kids, go to bed early, act like a real family, ****. In America, it's 'cool' to NOT be close to your family, 'do your own thing, be your own person, etc.' There is no personal accountability. Jovan and Kasi were a couple of ****ing idiots, living a hollow, bullshit life - so selfish, that even WITH their ample financial resources, they weren't capable of taking care of a child. Probably why Belcher's mom was there in the first place.

****ing losers.

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9179699)

Yes they have\do.

The only reason LJ was released was because he sucked if he was still playing at a high level they would have kept him around. They kept Dale Carter around, heck half of the 98 Chiefs team was thugs.

Originally Posted by KCWolfman (Post 9179686)

She was his mother, not a babysitter.

Aggrandizement of the situation. As I said, Grandma probably loved being with the child.

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel (Post 9179709)

LJ was cut after the Twitter incident...and because he sucked.

Dale Carter was getting in trouble from the moment he got here.

Bam, Tamarick, Andre Rison, Chet McGlockton, Dan Williams, Snoop Minnis...

The Hunts have had some total shitheads come through here.

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9179287)

My original statement was that "the Hunt family doesn't tolerate people like Belcher."

They don't.

Larry Johnson's ass was cut as soon as he showed he wasn't worth putting up with.